Reply to R Bot, I'm not in NZ I'm in Australia. But it doesn't matter where you are, if you get punished for criticising by being jailed, you will keep getting punished in jail.
Criticise on pain of reprisal. In jail they do more than just censor people.
Assange is not in jail for criticizing. He exposed the lies and atrocities of the American government. Exposing the lies of those in power is a serious crime in their view. It is a gift in the view of many who are not in power and that is part of the problem for those up there.
Assuming you didn't read the thread from the top, let's do an experiment right here.
Let's say you personally have "free speech": you're not incarcerated and you are in the US. Can you criticize the government freely? You can, obviously. Does it mean it doesn't rule over you? No, it doesn't.
can I? can I advocate for BDS and still get a government contract? have a job as a teacher? not in my state. and it is direcly because of anti BDS legislation by the state. so, no, one of the ways the government rules over me is by legeally suppressing speech, and i try to resist that.
Damn, Pretzel beat me to it Botty. Assange is not allowed visitors or phone calls. If a tree falls in the forest....
Here in Australia I can criticise my Govt in private, but if I march in the streets against say, their climate policies ( or lack thereof ) I can be arrested and jailed.
Reply to R Bot, I'm not in NZ I'm in Australia. But it doesn't matter where you are, if you get punished for criticising by being jailed, you will keep getting punished in jail.
Criticise on pain of reprisal. In jail they do more than just censor people.
Sorry, Australia, big difference.
Back to the funny topic - are you saying Assange no longer criticizes governments?
assange is in an isolation cell how many hours a day?
Assange is not in jail for criticizing. He exposed the lies and atrocities of the American government. Exposing the lies of those in power is a serious crime in their view. It is a gift in the view of many who are not in power and that is part of the problem for those up there.
Does it matter?
yeah, he doesnt have free speech.
Assuming you didn't read the thread from the top, let's do an experiment right here.
Let's say you personally have "free speech": you're not incarcerated and you are in the US. Can you criticize the government freely? You can, obviously. Does it mean it doesn't rule over you? No, it doesn't.
Is it clearer now?
can I? can I advocate for BDS and still get a government contract? have a job as a teacher? not in my state. and it is direcly because of anti BDS legislation by the state. so, no, one of the ways the government rules over me is by legeally suppressing speech, and i try to resist that.
Damn, Pretzel beat me to it Botty. Assange is not allowed visitors or phone calls. If a tree falls in the forest....
Here in Australia I can criticise my Govt in private, but if I march in the streets against say, their climate policies ( or lack thereof ) I can be arrested and jailed.