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russian_bot's avatar

Sorry to hear things in NZ are so bad you're not allowed to criticize your government. Proving it does rule over you.

Do you have anything down there that you can criticize, which would prove it has no power over you? Like, can you criticize your spouse?

PS: I'm really trying hard to clarify what I meant in my response to the top comment of the thread.

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JohnOnKaui's avatar

FWIW: you make an excellent point.

Some just don't want to hear it because they think they have some "snappy phrase" that means something.

By itself, Richard's phrase is "true".

But in the context of the "real world", we're criticizing everyone and everything with no change in the outcome whatsoever.

The result, we don't recognize who it is that rules over us. "They" don't care what we say because we're totally ineffective.

I dunno, but perhaps some operators are trying to dilute your message for diabolical reasons? They sure seem to go out of their way to not understand it.

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russian_bot's avatar

Some may be trolling but a few are good candidates for the forum's Dumb Squad. Among those would be the ones liking the gibberish.

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Realist's avatar

Well, a little trolling asshole like you would know about trolling.

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russian_bot's avatar

Why are you wasting your time lurking when you should be implementing the dismantling of the Deep State?

Did you have an opinion re the topic of the thread? Maybe you do - showing that by criticizing me you are not ruled by me. But I think you belong with the Dumb Squad.

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Realist's avatar

"Why are you wasting your time lurking when you should be implementing the dismantling of the Deep State?"

You have no solution to the problems facing this country. You are a nutless little prick.

"But I think you belong with the Dumb Squad."

Your opinion of me is so important to me.

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Susan T's avatar

You are pretty good at namecalling. Are you any good with solutions?

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David Avenell's avatar

Reply to R Bot, I'm not in NZ I'm in Australia. But it doesn't matter where you are, if you get punished for criticising by being jailed, you will keep getting punished in jail.

Criticise on pain of reprisal. In jail they do more than just censor people.

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russian_bot's avatar

Sorry, Australia, big difference.

Back to the funny topic - are you saying Assange no longer criticizes governments?

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pretzelattack's avatar

assange is in an isolation cell how many hours a day?

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Susan T's avatar

Assange is not in jail for criticizing. He exposed the lies and atrocities of the American government. Exposing the lies of those in power is a serious crime in their view. It is a gift in the view of many who are not in power and that is part of the problem for those up there.

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russian_bot's avatar

Does it matter?

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pretzelattack's avatar

yeah, he doesnt have free speech.

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russian_bot's avatar

Assuming you didn't read the thread from the top, let's do an experiment right here.

Let's say you personally have "free speech": you're not incarcerated and you are in the US. Can you criticize the government freely? You can, obviously. Does it mean it doesn't rule over you? No, it doesn't.

Is it clearer now?

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David Avenell's avatar

Damn, Pretzel beat me to it Botty. Assange is not allowed visitors or phone calls. If a tree falls in the forest....

Here in Australia I can criticise my Govt in private, but if I march in the streets against say, their climate policies ( or lack thereof ) I can be arrested and jailed.

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