The saying says "criticize". When you are "censored" it doesn't mean you cannot continue to "criticize". Even if you're put in prison you can continue to criticize the system that put you there.
Some just don't want to hear it because they think they have some "snappy phrase" that means something.
By itself, Richard's phrase is "true".
But in the context of the "real world", we're criticizing everyone and everything with no change in the outcome whatsoever.
The result, we don't recognize who it is that rules over us. "They" don't care what we say because we're totally ineffective.
I dunno, but perhaps some operators are trying to dilute your message for diabolical reasons? They sure seem to go out of their way to not understand it.
Why are you wasting your time lurking when you should be implementing the dismantling of the Deep State?
Did you have an opinion re the topic of the thread? Maybe you do - showing that by criticizing me you are not ruled by me. But I think you belong with the Dumb Squad.
Reply to R Bot, I'm not in NZ I'm in Australia. But it doesn't matter where you are, if you get punished for criticising by being jailed, you will keep getting punished in jail.
Criticise on pain of reprisal. In jail they do more than just censor people.
Assange is not in jail for criticizing. He exposed the lies and atrocities of the American government. Exposing the lies of those in power is a serious crime in their view. It is a gift in the view of many who are not in power and that is part of the problem for those up there.
Damn, Pretzel beat me to it Botty. Assange is not allowed visitors or phone calls. If a tree falls in the forest....
Here in Australia I can criticise my Govt in private, but if I march in the streets against say, their climate policies ( or lack thereof ) I can be arrested and jailed.
Can you not criticize the government right now right here? Can you not criticize Pharma, big or small, right now right here? Big IT? Police? Military? I think you can. Here and at quite a few places more. On a corner somewhere with a banner. Etc.
Yes you can criticise those things but not as freely as should be possible. Try criticizing Israel and you will be actively censored. We see that in the mainstream media who also censor criticism of BigPharma and others.
"Try criticizing Israel and you will be actively censored." - not here. And in many more places you won't.
But let's say you will be censored at some NYT or WP forum. Does it mean they rule over you? Just in one sense - you can't comment on their forum. And the keyword is "their" forum. But you can still get on with your life otherwise, and so they don't really rule over you where it matters.
But you can criticize Israel out on the street. Will they put you in jail for it? If you do it legally, they won't. But here's the kicker - they (the government etc) still rule over you, even though you can criticize them.
That's the gist of my response to the top comment of the thread.
It’s not possible in the places where 90% of people get informed, or rather misinformed. As Noam Chomsky once said to a journalist of one of these misniformation networks: “Its not that you dont believe what you are saying, Its that if you did NOT believe those things, you wouldn’t be allowed to hold the position that you do”.
Go look at the mainstream media and speeches of mainstream leaders. It’s not just an issue of what is there - it’s what is NOT there - such as…. critique of israeli genocide.
Because that critique it is NOT allowed.
Not all rules are written. Some you can detect by inference.
The saying says "criticize". When you are "censored" it doesn't mean you cannot continue to "criticize". Even if you're put in prison you can continue to criticize the system that put you there.
Sorry Botty, but if you get put in jail for criticising, you are not allowed to criticise.
That's close enough to cannot for most I think.
Sorry to hear things in NZ are so bad you're not allowed to criticize your government. Proving it does rule over you.
Do you have anything down there that you can criticize, which would prove it has no power over you? Like, can you criticize your spouse?
PS: I'm really trying hard to clarify what I meant in my response to the top comment of the thread.
FWIW: you make an excellent point.
Some just don't want to hear it because they think they have some "snappy phrase" that means something.
By itself, Richard's phrase is "true".
But in the context of the "real world", we're criticizing everyone and everything with no change in the outcome whatsoever.
The result, we don't recognize who it is that rules over us. "They" don't care what we say because we're totally ineffective.
I dunno, but perhaps some operators are trying to dilute your message for diabolical reasons? They sure seem to go out of their way to not understand it.
Some may be trolling but a few are good candidates for the forum's Dumb Squad. Among those would be the ones liking the gibberish.
Well, a little trolling asshole like you would know about trolling.
Why are you wasting your time lurking when you should be implementing the dismantling of the Deep State?
Did you have an opinion re the topic of the thread? Maybe you do - showing that by criticizing me you are not ruled by me. But I think you belong with the Dumb Squad.
Reply to R Bot, I'm not in NZ I'm in Australia. But it doesn't matter where you are, if you get punished for criticising by being jailed, you will keep getting punished in jail.
Criticise on pain of reprisal. In jail they do more than just censor people.
Sorry, Australia, big difference.
Back to the funny topic - are you saying Assange no longer criticizes governments?
assange is in an isolation cell how many hours a day?
Assange is not in jail for criticizing. He exposed the lies and atrocities of the American government. Exposing the lies of those in power is a serious crime in their view. It is a gift in the view of many who are not in power and that is part of the problem for those up there.
Does it matter?
Damn, Pretzel beat me to it Botty. Assange is not allowed visitors or phone calls. If a tree falls in the forest....
Here in Australia I can criticise my Govt in private, but if I march in the streets against say, their climate policies ( or lack thereof ) I can be arrested and jailed.
If you are not allowed to criticize, that means you are prevented from criticizing or are punished for criticizing and that is censorship.
Can you not criticize the government right now right here? Can you not criticize Pharma, big or small, right now right here? Big IT? Police? Military? I think you can. Here and at quite a few places more. On a corner somewhere with a banner. Etc.
Does it mean they don't rule over you?
Yes you can criticise those things but not as freely as should be possible. Try criticizing Israel and you will be actively censored. We see that in the mainstream media who also censor criticism of BigPharma and others.
"Try criticizing Israel and you will be actively censored." - not here. And in many more places you won't.
But let's say you will be censored at some NYT or WP forum. Does it mean they rule over you? Just in one sense - you can't comment on their forum. And the keyword is "their" forum. But you can still get on with your life otherwise, and so they don't really rule over you where it matters.
But you can criticize Israel out on the street. Will they put you in jail for it? If you do it legally, they won't. But here's the kicker - they (the government etc) still rule over you, even though you can criticize them.
That's the gist of my response to the top comment of the thread.
It’s not possible in the places where 90% of people get informed, or rather misinformed. As Noam Chomsky once said to a journalist of one of these misniformation networks: “Its not that you dont believe what you are saying, Its that if you did NOT believe those things, you wouldn’t be allowed to hold the position that you do”.
Go look at the mainstream media and speeches of mainstream leaders. It’s not just an issue of what is there - it’s what is NOT there - such as…. critique of israeli genocide.
Because that critique it is NOT allowed.
Not all rules are written. Some you can detect by inference.
"Even if you're put in prison you can continue to criticize the system that put you there." Aha. The new free speech.
Can you not? Which would prove the prison doesn't rule over you.
How bout you go first.
Where?
Prison, dude. Prove they don't rule you.
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you’re not allowed to criticize."