It's a snappy trope but a misleading one unless you specify who is not allowed to criticize. Regular folks can and do, but the thing is they don't matter.
The saying suggests somebody can't. Who is that and what follows from the discovery?
It is not misleading. If you are censored by certain groups or on certain issues then those groups or those behind the issues have greater power than they should have in a modern democracy. That makes them dangerous whether it is the pharmaceutical industry, the Zionist industry, the Israeli industry, the Jewish industry, the whatever industry.
The saying says "criticize". When you are "censored" it doesn't mean you cannot continue to "criticize". Even if you're put in prison you can continue to criticize the system that put you there.
Some just don't want to hear it because they think they have some "snappy phrase" that means something.
By itself, Richard's phrase is "true".
But in the context of the "real world", we're criticizing everyone and everything with no change in the outcome whatsoever.
The result, we don't recognize who it is that rules over us. "They" don't care what we say because we're totally ineffective.
I dunno, but perhaps some operators are trying to dilute your message for diabolical reasons? They sure seem to go out of their way to not understand it.
Reply to R Bot, I'm not in NZ I'm in Australia. But it doesn't matter where you are, if you get punished for criticising by being jailed, you will keep getting punished in jail.
Criticise on pain of reprisal. In jail they do more than just censor people.
Can you not criticize the government right now right here? Can you not criticize Pharma, big or small, right now right here? Big IT? Police? Military? I think you can. Here and at quite a few places more. On a corner somewhere with a banner. Etc.
Yes you can criticise those things but not as freely as should be possible. Try criticizing Israel and you will be actively censored. We see that in the mainstream media who also censor criticism of BigPharma and others.
"Try criticizing Israel and you will be actively censored." - not here. And in many more places you won't.
But let's say you will be censored at some NYT or WP forum. Does it mean they rule over you? Just in one sense - you can't comment on their forum. And the keyword is "their" forum. But you can still get on with your life otherwise, and so they don't really rule over you where it matters.
But you can criticize Israel out on the street. Will they put you in jail for it? If you do it legally, they won't. But here's the kicker - they (the government etc) still rule over you, even though you can criticize them.
That's the gist of my response to the top comment of the thread.
The prison doesn’t rule over you. Except for the fact that you cannot leave, have to go to bed at a certain time, eat, exercise, wash, have visits from outside when permitted, have all of your correspondence opened and read by the prison officers, and may have to go to solitary confinement if it suits the needs of the regime. Besides all that you can criticise anything or anyone to your hearts content. Even while in solitary. You can talk to yourself. Or the wall. You’re quite free to knock yourself out criticising any thing, person, or government of your choice.
I know Athena. I was replying to the hairsplitting nonsense. If you expose a lie, and are jailed for doing so, you are ruled by liars. You can criticise in your head, if needs be. We are at a fork in the road. Critics need to be vocal. Hold a mirror up to others and show them the error of their ways. Non compliance from within the only remaining ideology, the one that rules over the planet, is our only course of action.
I am not so sure russian bot. I am a nobody in New Zealand but as I stepped up the campaign against the poisonous bioweapon I came to the attention of the NZ Security Service. I have my cell phone blocked and this internet is using the next door neighbours receiver. Repeat I am a nobody and old >. and my life has been made very difficult. All cell phone and Internet applications are know ti the NZ Security who are a puppet of the NWO
It's a snappy trope but a misleading one unless you specify who is not allowed to criticize. Regular folks can and do, but the thing is they don't matter.
The saying suggests somebody can't. Who is that and what follows from the discovery?
It is not misleading. If you are censored by certain groups or on certain issues then those groups or those behind the issues have greater power than they should have in a modern democracy. That makes them dangerous whether it is the pharmaceutical industry, the Zionist industry, the Israeli industry, the Jewish industry, the whatever industry.
The saying says "criticize". When you are "censored" it doesn't mean you cannot continue to "criticize". Even if you're put in prison you can continue to criticize the system that put you there.
Sorry Botty, but if you get put in jail for criticising, you are not allowed to criticise.
That's close enough to cannot for most I think.
Sorry to hear things in NZ are so bad you're not allowed to criticize your government. Proving it does rule over you.
Do you have anything down there that you can criticize, which would prove it has no power over you? Like, can you criticize your spouse?
PS: I'm really trying hard to clarify what I meant in my response to the top comment of the thread.
FWIW: you make an excellent point.
Some just don't want to hear it because they think they have some "snappy phrase" that means something.
By itself, Richard's phrase is "true".
But in the context of the "real world", we're criticizing everyone and everything with no change in the outcome whatsoever.
The result, we don't recognize who it is that rules over us. "They" don't care what we say because we're totally ineffective.
I dunno, but perhaps some operators are trying to dilute your message for diabolical reasons? They sure seem to go out of their way to not understand it.
Some may be trolling but a few are good candidates for the forum's Dumb Squad. Among those would be the ones liking the gibberish.
Reply to R Bot, I'm not in NZ I'm in Australia. But it doesn't matter where you are, if you get punished for criticising by being jailed, you will keep getting punished in jail.
Criticise on pain of reprisal. In jail they do more than just censor people.
Sorry, Australia, big difference.
Back to the funny topic - are you saying Assange no longer criticizes governments?
If you are not allowed to criticize, that means you are prevented from criticizing or are punished for criticizing and that is censorship.
Can you not criticize the government right now right here? Can you not criticize Pharma, big or small, right now right here? Big IT? Police? Military? I think you can. Here and at quite a few places more. On a corner somewhere with a banner. Etc.
Does it mean they don't rule over you?
Yes you can criticise those things but not as freely as should be possible. Try criticizing Israel and you will be actively censored. We see that in the mainstream media who also censor criticism of BigPharma and others.
"Try criticizing Israel and you will be actively censored." - not here. And in many more places you won't.
But let's say you will be censored at some NYT or WP forum. Does it mean they rule over you? Just in one sense - you can't comment on their forum. And the keyword is "their" forum. But you can still get on with your life otherwise, and so they don't really rule over you where it matters.
But you can criticize Israel out on the street. Will they put you in jail for it? If you do it legally, they won't. But here's the kicker - they (the government etc) still rule over you, even though you can criticize them.
That's the gist of my response to the top comment of the thread.
"Even if you're put in prison you can continue to criticize the system that put you there." Aha. The new free speech.
Can you not? Which would prove the prison doesn't rule over you.
How bout you go first.
Where?
The prison doesn’t rule over you. Except for the fact that you cannot leave, have to go to bed at a certain time, eat, exercise, wash, have visits from outside when permitted, have all of your correspondence opened and read by the prison officers, and may have to go to solitary confinement if it suits the needs of the regime. Besides all that you can criticise anything or anyone to your hearts content. Even while in solitary. You can talk to yourself. Or the wall. You’re quite free to knock yourself out criticising any thing, person, or government of your choice.
Yes, agree but not what I was talking about.
I know Athena. I was replying to the hairsplitting nonsense. If you expose a lie, and are jailed for doing so, you are ruled by liars. You can criticise in your head, if needs be. We are at a fork in the road. Critics need to be vocal. Hold a mirror up to others and show them the error of their ways. Non compliance from within the only remaining ideology, the one that rules over the planet, is our only course of action.
Take care.
Sorry I misunderstood. The medium is cryptic.
I am not so sure russian bot. I am a nobody in New Zealand but as I stepped up the campaign against the poisonous bioweapon I came to the attention of the NZ Security Service. I have my cell phone blocked and this internet is using the next door neighbours receiver. Repeat I am a nobody and old >. and my life has been made very difficult. All cell phone and Internet applications are know ti the NZ Security who are a puppet of the NWO