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I think people are losing sight of the greater picture - Israel's reputation is damaged forever! Trying to throw Netanyahu under the bus will not work although he will be spending the rest of his life in prison if they don't assassinate him first - or I could see him committing suicide like Hitler as he knows the walls are closing in - the IDF was responsible for the majority of deaths on 10-07 and when the truth becomes to unbearable for anyone to deny - Israel's history and fate will be sealed.

Witnesses are coming forward to testify it was the IDF who slaughtered them on 10-07 and not Hamas. This is why I believe nearly a quarter of a million have relocated to Europe. They know what happened!

Listen to the Ron Unz interview - he basically says what so many of us had already learned. He believes the number of people Hamas killed may be as low as 100 and I agree. Listen to how he derives that figure. It's not something he simply picks out of thin air. The order was to kidnap not kill!

The mere fact that the lies that followed are so unfathomably egregious I believe solidifies this! Babies in ovens - cutting off breasts, cutting babies out of wombs? Who in their right mind would've ever believed something so hideous? Those days are over! People have woken up - they know there is no truth to anything the media reports. Look how fast everything is debunked!

And again, if none of this were false then why they need to destroy all the evidence. Not only did they bury the cars - one poster on these lists said they shredded them before doing so! I assume they know one helluva an investigation is about to unfold. All the video from the security breach of the fence has mysteriously disappeared? The world knows this was a false flag!

All this said I personally don't foresee Israel (as we have known it) will exist in the future - so talk of two state I believe is moot. I personally believe Russia is going to be the worlds super power and will never allow and or perhaps even control the Middle East and all it's resources.

It's highly doubtful anyone will have an ounce of respect or sympathy for Israel ever again (they have lost all their allies) but especially the Israel's themselves. They tore a page out of the Holocaust - so forget sympathy for that as well. If the US continues to stand with Israel they will simply sink with them but you know with the upcoming election all of that will change. I'll bet anyone anything that Russia takes over everything and of course under the guise of bringing an immediate end to this and seen as the hero.

I have read that is the USA's greatest fear.

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Have you been watching and listening to Putin of late - he's really been making the rounds. He did a a four and a half question and answer interview the other day. He's been traveling to the Middle East and visa versa. I read or watched an interview where they said the greatest fear of the US is that Russia is going to resolve all of this. That's all I know . . . .

Time will tell, I guess, right?

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I don't my friend, not only has Israel now completely ostracized itself amongst the Arab States but so has the USA - whereas Russia appears to be the polar opposite and making extreme headway.

One can only to assume all of this fighting boils down to the natural gas reserves - ownership routes, disbursement., etc. but at this point, if I were a betting man - I would say Russia by far has the upper hand - hence moving in. Part of me wonders if this is why we facilitated the weapons and refused the cease fire to expedite Israel's decline - I don't foresee Israel ever coming back from this and it's only a matter of time before Israel ceases to exist as we knew it! How great would it be to have an Russian occupation? Hah! There's a lot of Russian Jews IN Israel

I believe Russia with it's enormous wealth versus the bankrupt Europe and USA will take over but especially given their allies - COMBINED the US doesn't stand a chance IF this war were to escalate. It would be mass suicide. Turkey has amassed 2 million soldiers and an impressive arsenal and Russia has since expanded it's to 2.2 million with an arsenal that dwarfs everyone's else's.

I personally foresee this as all ending with Russia and the Middle East being the eventual victors and saying buh-bye to the good ole USA which was in it's final throws already. Israel can threaten with their nukes and I put noting past Netanyahu - but again Russia is superior.

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Che, here is where our opinions part ways.

Can you imagine the scum-of-the-earth squatters living in peace with their Arab neighbors? I don’t give a flying fuck what happens to them; let “greater (ha ha) IsraHell” absorb them, or send them back to under the rocks from which they came.

The Palestinians will NEVER have equal rights under One State…unless the state is called Palestine, and only the Jews who can get along with their Arab neighbors are allowed to stay.

I just don’t see that happening.

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I don't know anymore - however thinking ahead . . . .

Israel has now lost everything as far as their reputation throughout the entire world - so no matter what comes of this, it is highly doubtful they will have much say let alone ANY say regarding a possible solution. Just thinking aloud.

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I like your way of thinking and agree but I believe once Israel can no longer hide and/or deny the truth that the IDF slaughtered the majority of Israel's on 10-07 and not Hamas - this will change the entire the dynamics of everything. I believe the people of Israel are already aware they are being used as pawns in a power grab which is why they are migrating to Europe in the hundreds of thousands. Israel very similar to the USA is over - I do believe Russia is is going to be the winner of everything. I wrote something elsewhere to GYPYS or maybe Jen see if you can read it

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