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BJ's avatar

Absolutely Fran! Pictures don't lie and the people know this story stinks. Thank God for Covid and the lethal injections - now people no longer believe the media and sure as hell the government! The people in Israel know the truth and are not only coming forward to testify - but I think I read something like 350,000 have moved to Europe. If what Israel is doing is so righteous and noble - what exactly are they running from? I would assume their own government - after knowing they slaughtered so many on 10-07 and blamed Hamas in order to start this conflict

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Fran's avatar

I really feel Israel knew this was coming, since they were warned several times by three different sources. They exaggerated the number of deaths, introduced rapes and baby killings, to justify their very obvious intent of implementing a genocide to clear the land of Gaza. Oh, Netanyahu would never do that say many, however the widow of Rabin blamed Netanyahu for his death. Rail violently against the Oslo Accords, create a funeral procession for Rabin, and surely someone will hear your message, "Kill Rabin!"

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Oh they knew it was coming and used it as a pre-text to start the invasion and genocide. That's why they needed to slaughter their own people - Hamas's orders were to kidnap and not kill civilian's. When it didn't unfold or pan out as Israel assumed - they had to do it themselves which is why they continue to destroy all the evidence! The orders were given to kill everyone. Watch the Ron Unz interview he almost nails everything bringing the truth to light but says he has a hard time believing the conspiracy this was intentional. For such an esteemed political activist he should not have used the word conspiracy. l can't wait until the truth becomes to unbearable to deny to hear what the Israel's have to say about their own government. Israel witnesses are coming forward to testify what happened - it was the IDF and not Hamas who slaughtered the majority on 10-07. Unz thinks and I agree - it was closer to 100 that Hamas killed. You might be able to censor the truth in the media but people that were there that day know and saw what happened and rest assure are talking - hence the massive migration to Europe. Imagine knowing your own governments murdered IDF soldiers? Everyone knows the truth - why the lies are just so incredibly egregious.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi BJ

And NOW… Europe is being “hailed” as stopping “Hamas terrorist attacks “ within the EU!

I can hardly stop laughing. Now, wasn’t this little story convenient at the same time IsraHell’s reputation is in the sewer!

Look at Hamas’ track record. They have absolutely no record of fomenting any kind of attacks against anyone outside of the Occupying Power.

Nice try, though! 😂

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BJ's avatar

PS GYPS:

It's the same BS being used to say Jewish kids are now scared at school - turns out they really are scared - but they're scared of the enormous Pro-Israel presence and security and petrified of speaking their support for Palestine. One girl on my local college radio station was saying she never felt so uncomfortable to be a Jew at her school in her entire life but NOT because of antisemitism!! Isn't that amazing but especially when you factor in how many of these Jewish kids and the plethora of Jewish Groups throughout the entire world are marching and protesting in SUPPORT OF PALESTINE!

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BJ's avatar

YES I saw that the minute it broke - it also caught my attention because I have Danish friends. Pardon my language but another total crock of shit! WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! till they discover that it was the IDF and not Hamas who slaughtered the majority of people that day and as I said in an earlier post Ron Unz thinks the figure could be as low as 100 and I have agreed since Day One! The Israelis are coming forward in droves to testify what happened on 10-07. Again this is why I also say, why have over a quarter of a million fled to Europe instead? People will claim because they fear future war but we all know it's their own government they fear the most. Common sense okay? Imagine the family members of the IDF soldiers who were slaughtered - does anyone really believe word did not get out - who was killed by whom? Really seriously. C'mon! Furthermore why would ever go in with such massive artillery and bomb everything - who gave the order to annihilate everything within sight but more imperatively why, why, why? Who invoked the Hannibal Directive? Might it have something to do with making sure there were no witnesses to confirm what actually happened? Well thankfully they were! We know beyond the shadow of doubt this was NOT a lapse in security! If defies every microscopic ounce of all reality. Could Netanyahu have sunk so low to use it for his own personal gains whatever they may be, which are myriad? Bottom line is they and not Hamas sacrificed at least 1000 Israel's that day! Two pertinent questions, why the excessive force on 10-07 and then again in Gaza? WHY? WHY? WHY?

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gypsy33's avatar

BJ, you are so right on it hurts! 😁

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Fran's avatar

I think it's natural for him to hold back, and hopefully the truth will come out and people can state what happened in a more affirmative way. If not true then that should be acknowledged also.

Scandal-stained Israeli ‘rescue’ group fuels October 7 fabrications

MAX BLUMENTHAL·DECEMBER 6, 2023

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/12/06/scandal-israeli-october-7-fabrications/

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BJ's avatar

You know I sat down to reply to your original comment then forgot what it was - I don't remember where I read/saw it but it talked about the sophistication of the Israel security and military. I think they said the 2nd or 4th best in the entire world. Anyhow, what they said was that there is no way in hell Israel missed this. The person went on and on in enormous detail describing just how intricate it is. I knew nothing about Mossad - but the person was saying there is no way in hell they failed.

This is what really really annoys me - everyone keeps attributing this to a security's failure (which you know it's not) and basically - this person (as best I can recall) was saying it is absolutely impossible. He said they have drones that monitor every single thing! I had read elsewhere a bird sets off the alarms on the fence. I also read somewhere else that Hama's knocked out the power but that's not true. It may have been this interview but if not it was still excellent!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-palestine-war-where-aiming/5841807

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Fran's avatar

Thanks for that link looks very interesting.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Fran

Last night on CBS (don’t ask me why I bother!) Ziobitch Nora O’Donnell presented a quasi-serious “inquiry” about “sexual assaults” on Israeli women on 10/7.

Problem is, there are no survivors, and no forensics were done on anyone who was supposedly assaulted!

She crowed about women “bleeding from their vaginas.” Well, anyone who knows one damned thing about the birds and the bees are perfectly aware that yes, younger women DO bleed from their vaginas on a monthly basis. It’s called “menstruation “.

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Fran's avatar

Hi, Gypsy, The more they talk the more confused I become with all their contradictory accounts. I personally doubt that women were raped, nor do I believe they killed babies, which no doubt provides Israel the propaganda they need to implement their horrific carnage. and justify their killing of so many women and children. I don't know if you go to Aljazeera but their video coverage of the Israeli assault is so profoundly disturbing. I have never supported the Balfour accords, and it was no more then a reflection of a colonial, prejudicial mindset during that period, but unfortunately it continues to this day and Israel has made that very clear.

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