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Rayya Ghul's avatar

I don’t agree. I think it is very different because what the Nazis did was standalone racism based on notions of superiority and racial/social purity - and on an industrial scale. While what lsrael is doing is pure settler colonialism. It’s exactly what happened in the Americas, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, except it wasn’t documented and live-streamed. South Africa only fell because of the advent of ubiquitous TV and film/video made ordinary people, external and internal, rise up and reject it. Gaza is this process speeded up because of social media. Yes, lsrael is using dehumanising as a tactic and sophisticated propaganda etc, but for different means - ethnic cleansing of the land because they want it to themselves, free from the reminder of their crime of theft and free from the (literal) thorn in their side. As a Palestinian I can only hope the fall of lsrael as an apartheid state also happens speeded up.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

The motivation is different, I agree, Not sure it's exactly "stand-alone racism"--the motive was the need for a scapegoat, because the German people were hurting, because of the Depression that hurt the whole world but also because of an unfair settlement imposed on them after losing WW I. For the Nazis, naming scapegoats--not only, but primarily, the Jews--helped them consolidate power and crush dissent. Whereas the Zionazis don't need a scapegoat, I don't think--they just want to take all the land, have a nice pure white Jewish homeland they can expand into all of...and if they get it, will they be satisfied or will they find some line in the Bible that entitles them to parts of neighboring countries?

As for the advent of live independent filming making people rise up and reject it, this sure makes it harder to get away with land theft and slavery, but it goes on anyway. I have some hope that THIS situation might create a breaking point, though, as we now have an unprecedented gap between what the political leaders and the big media of all the empowered white countries say, and what people within as well as outside those countries, and the leaders of those not in the NATO camp, and a lot of independent media, are saying--this will tend to discredit "mainstream" (corporate) media and direct people toward alternative sources of information, which can only be a good thing.

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Rayya Ghul's avatar

Wanting to take all the land = settler colonialism, which is what I said. No need to go down the Nazi route.

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Landru's avatar

Sorry it's exactly the same. israel was created out of racism. europe, france and the u.s. created a state out of the state of Palestine because they didn't want Jewish people in numbers. That is racism and exactly what the Nazi's did. Evil begat evil. Many thanks to the People of South Africa and Yemen.

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