In this case the Israeli propagandists have a hard row to hoe. There is the usual need to pretend that Israelis are the innocent victims, that a massacre of Palestinians by the IDF is "conflict" and that the Arabs/Muslims are probably all "terrorists"--but to achieve Israel's objective i sacrificing a thousand Jews==getting other countries to take all the Gazans, or at least half of them but preferably all so Israel can take over Gaza and develop its offshore gas fields--they need to horrify the world about what;s happening to the Gazans so Egypt or SOMEBODY agrees to take in hundreds of thousands of refugees. Of course so country wants to, Egypt reportedly because it doesn't want more "troublemakers" in its dictatorship, but also because these people are a big burden on the state...and in the case of Arab/Muslim nations, because they don't want to be seen as facilitating Israel's ethnic cleansing. Seems lately like within Israel, they lean toward making the atrocities highly visible, and make forthright statements--which leaves the propagandists elsewhere a monumental task to try to use a tattered figleaf to cover an elephant.
I'll tell you one thing--we should stop using words like Nakba to describe what's happening in Gaza--we should use the word "holocaust', which Zionists have tried to appropriate to refer exclusively to what happened in Europe to Jews in the 30's and 40s. But what the Zionists are doing in Israel is much more like the Holocaust then like the Nakba. When Israelis call Palestinians "human animals " (untermenschen) and say they are the chosen race and God gave Israel to them 2000 years ago (Master Race), and they need more places for settlements (lebensraum), and the untermeschen are getting in their way and they need now to go for a Final Solution--its time to recognize that playbook. Israel has become the Fourth Reich. The fact that the Nazis were speaking Germans and their most numerous victims were Jews, while the Zionists speak Hebrew and English and their victims are Palestinians speaking Arabic is irrelevant.
I don’t agree. I think it is very different because what the Nazis did was standalone racism based on notions of superiority and racial/social purity - and on an industrial scale. While what lsrael is doing is pure settler colonialism. It’s exactly what happened in the Americas, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, except it wasn’t documented and live-streamed. South Africa only fell because of the advent of ubiquitous TV and film/video made ordinary people, external and internal, rise up and reject it. Gaza is this process speeded up because of social media. Yes, lsrael is using dehumanising as a tactic and sophisticated propaganda etc, but for different means - ethnic cleansing of the land because they want it to themselves, free from the reminder of their crime of theft and free from the (literal) thorn in their side. As a Palestinian I can only hope the fall of lsrael as an apartheid state also happens speeded up.
The motivation is different, I agree, Not sure it's exactly "stand-alone racism"--the motive was the need for a scapegoat, because the German people were hurting, because of the Depression that hurt the whole world but also because of an unfair settlement imposed on them after losing WW I. For the Nazis, naming scapegoats--not only, but primarily, the Jews--helped them consolidate power and crush dissent. Whereas the Zionazis don't need a scapegoat, I don't think--they just want to take all the land, have a nice pure white Jewish homeland they can expand into all of...and if they get it, will they be satisfied or will they find some line in the Bible that entitles them to parts of neighboring countries?
As for the advent of live independent filming making people rise up and reject it, this sure makes it harder to get away with land theft and slavery, but it goes on anyway. I have some hope that THIS situation might create a breaking point, though, as we now have an unprecedented gap between what the political leaders and the big media of all the empowered white countries say, and what people within as well as outside those countries, and the leaders of those not in the NATO camp, and a lot of independent media, are saying--this will tend to discredit "mainstream" (corporate) media and direct people toward alternative sources of information, which can only be a good thing.
Sorry it's exactly the same. israel was created out of racism. europe, france and the u.s. created a state out of the state of Palestine because they didn't want Jewish people in numbers. That is racism and exactly what the Nazi's did. Evil begat evil. Many thanks to the People of South Africa and Yemen.
In this case the Israeli propagandists have a hard row to hoe. There is the usual need to pretend that Israelis are the innocent victims, that a massacre of Palestinians by the IDF is "conflict" and that the Arabs/Muslims are probably all "terrorists"--but to achieve Israel's objective i sacrificing a thousand Jews==getting other countries to take all the Gazans, or at least half of them but preferably all so Israel can take over Gaza and develop its offshore gas fields--they need to horrify the world about what;s happening to the Gazans so Egypt or SOMEBODY agrees to take in hundreds of thousands of refugees. Of course so country wants to, Egypt reportedly because it doesn't want more "troublemakers" in its dictatorship, but also because these people are a big burden on the state...and in the case of Arab/Muslim nations, because they don't want to be seen as facilitating Israel's ethnic cleansing. Seems lately like within Israel, they lean toward making the atrocities highly visible, and make forthright statements--which leaves the propagandists elsewhere a monumental task to try to use a tattered figleaf to cover an elephant.
I'll tell you one thing--we should stop using words like Nakba to describe what's happening in Gaza--we should use the word "holocaust', which Zionists have tried to appropriate to refer exclusively to what happened in Europe to Jews in the 30's and 40s. But what the Zionists are doing in Israel is much more like the Holocaust then like the Nakba. When Israelis call Palestinians "human animals " (untermenschen) and say they are the chosen race and God gave Israel to them 2000 years ago (Master Race), and they need more places for settlements (lebensraum), and the untermeschen are getting in their way and they need now to go for a Final Solution--its time to recognize that playbook. Israel has become the Fourth Reich. The fact that the Nazis were speaking Germans and their most numerous victims were Jews, while the Zionists speak Hebrew and English and their victims are Palestinians speaking Arabic is irrelevant.
Keep writing Mary. I would also add no longer using the term IDF, israel GENOCIDE Force is the exact description.
I don’t agree. I think it is very different because what the Nazis did was standalone racism based on notions of superiority and racial/social purity - and on an industrial scale. While what lsrael is doing is pure settler colonialism. It’s exactly what happened in the Americas, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, except it wasn’t documented and live-streamed. South Africa only fell because of the advent of ubiquitous TV and film/video made ordinary people, external and internal, rise up and reject it. Gaza is this process speeded up because of social media. Yes, lsrael is using dehumanising as a tactic and sophisticated propaganda etc, but for different means - ethnic cleansing of the land because they want it to themselves, free from the reminder of their crime of theft and free from the (literal) thorn in their side. As a Palestinian I can only hope the fall of lsrael as an apartheid state also happens speeded up.
The motivation is different, I agree, Not sure it's exactly "stand-alone racism"--the motive was the need for a scapegoat, because the German people were hurting, because of the Depression that hurt the whole world but also because of an unfair settlement imposed on them after losing WW I. For the Nazis, naming scapegoats--not only, but primarily, the Jews--helped them consolidate power and crush dissent. Whereas the Zionazis don't need a scapegoat, I don't think--they just want to take all the land, have a nice pure white Jewish homeland they can expand into all of...and if they get it, will they be satisfied or will they find some line in the Bible that entitles them to parts of neighboring countries?
As for the advent of live independent filming making people rise up and reject it, this sure makes it harder to get away with land theft and slavery, but it goes on anyway. I have some hope that THIS situation might create a breaking point, though, as we now have an unprecedented gap between what the political leaders and the big media of all the empowered white countries say, and what people within as well as outside those countries, and the leaders of those not in the NATO camp, and a lot of independent media, are saying--this will tend to discredit "mainstream" (corporate) media and direct people toward alternative sources of information, which can only be a good thing.
Wanting to take all the land = settler colonialism, which is what I said. No need to go down the Nazi route.
Sorry it's exactly the same. israel was created out of racism. europe, france and the u.s. created a state out of the state of Palestine because they didn't want Jewish people in numbers. That is racism and exactly what the Nazi's did. Evil begat evil. Many thanks to the People of South Africa and Yemen.