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notBob's avatar

The solution you are looking for has nothing to do with economic models and everything to do with liberty. Eliminate government and most problems go with it.

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

I disagree. All of the theorists about society: Rousseau, John Stuart Mill, and John Locke (read his Two Treatises on Government) said that governments are formed (in fact, societies are formed) because individuals can get their needs met better from a group than they can each by himself. Governments exist to have the power, that is, they are agreed to by the people, to curb the might of the powerful and protect the rights of the weak.

Of course, in your lifetime, you have only seen governments which have usurped their power and are oppressing their people, so you believe that that's the only form they can take.

Please read the entire Declaration of Independence. See what Jefferson had to say about governments that usurp their power.

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notBob's avatar

Please drop the condescending attitude, I have read more of the founding documents than most. Are you suggesting that Chinese history where the government was nothing but a 1000 year long power struggle between war lords was an anomaly ? How about Rome where every transition was a coup, patricide or outright military regime change was the exception ? Perhaps it was the peaceful indigenous peoples of the Americas you had in mind that had non stop raging tribal warfare continent wide for generations.

Since you fantasize that government is benevolent please provide specific examples of such governments because I have found none.

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Susan Mercurio's avatar

You read "the founding documents," fine.

Have you read Plato, Aristotle, Rousseau, Montaigne, John Locke, John Stuart Mill, Machiavelli?

I didn't say that governments were benevolent. I said that the PURPOSE people have for creating a government is that it ought to be benevolent.

If you have read the "founding documents," you must have read the Declaration of Independence. I'm guessing that it must have been some time ago. I asked you to RE-READ it.

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