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kristofarian's avatar

'don't "like" it?'

MOVE.

there's gotta be Somewhere

that ain't fully Corporatized

like Somalia or the Moon?

you'll be much

Happier there.

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jamenta's avatar

They said the same about the Vietnam war. Don't like it? Move. After 50,000+ American dead, and even more Vietnamese dead, and a huge hole in the US budget - they finally turned tail and ran, and admitted, oh well, we were wrong....

Turns out these Americans were dickheads. Some of them even found a way not to get drafted. The chicken hawks!

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Feral Finster's avatar

The difference being that the propaganda machine has now been cranked up to levels not seen since Goebbels was alive and foaming at the mouth.

No dissent permitted! Even the most timid MSM attempts to question the war have been drowned out and the perpetrators forced to apologize.

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jamenta's avatar

Agree. Worst I've seen it in my lifetime. Similar to all the homeless you now see in California. Meanwhile, our fearless leaders are sending billions to Ukraine. To protect whom? The homeless living under bridges in the US of A?

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ZorroRu's avatar

Hello from Russia :)

It is probably better here, but not funny, of course, and we are very angry with Western elites and mainstr media, and some more people.

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Ellie Kesselman's avatar

Yes, you're right about the media blackout in the U.S. My only remaining news sources for non-U.S. news were the Wall Street Journal (people don't read it for world news, but they do light but original reporting), World Socialist WS, and al Jazeera. Wire services like AP and Reuters are useless, because they're in Goebbels mode, same as CNN and Fox. Sadly, WSJ is worthless too now, with constant propaganda (e.g. "brave Azov and Svoboda warriors!" and silence about increasing food bank usage) although half of the reader community is in open revolt. WSJ has cracked down by CENSORING wrong-speak subscriber comments!

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Ellie Kesselman's avatar

Yes, I understand. You were trying to be genuinely helpful in what you wrote. Same thing happens for me: No four letter words, no URLs (links), I stay on topic, yet my comment gets "held for review", never to be released. I often read the comments more closely than the articles because readers point out and discuss errors of fact. Or, they will answer questions about something that the article got totally muddled. I've subscribed for about 10 years. The archival content is really useful. Also, WSJ will report on things that are directly relevant to me for work, e.g. the coup thing at the FDIC last year. It should have been of great concern to lots of people! (Compliance Week is like a gossip column, didn't even mention it.) It would have been possible if Obama, Trump, or Biden had kept up with appointing directors for vacancies, plus observing term limits. But it is all falling apart. We had lots of really good bank regulators. Like everything else in government and business, they seem to be filling up with nepotism, favoritism, and corruption <=> conflicts of interest. My WSJ subscription is expensive though, and I find it a lot less useful lately.

Ah yes, the fist bump with MBS, I remember that! After getting turned down, I think they asked Venezuela for oil help.

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ZorroRu's avatar

The situation is just yucky, isn't it?

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jamenta's avatar

yeah - except the US is suppose to be the bastion of "freedom"

Welcome to the crock of shit lie.

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kristofarian's avatar

PRO War

long as They

were not asked

to fight and maybe Die

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