“He will have to comply or they will fuck him up.”
Pure speculation. I don’t think Musks government contacts are in conflict with Twitter content moderation policy or practice. While I don’t deny the existence of a globohomo cabal arguing that Twitter policy and SpaceX contracts are somehow intertwined is a big stretch.
Well if Zuckerberg is compromised (it seems likely) then he was compromised from day 1. Elon isn’t acting like someone who is compromised.
Maybe in time Bezos and Blue Origin steps up and SpaceX is marginalized. But until that happens they need SpaceX as much or more than SpaceX needs them.
Yes, for sure. I find Musk to be one of the most fascinating people around. I used to be a hater while finding him interesting. So I began watching every interview and podcast I could find of his. I might have been through all of them on YT and Rumble at this point.
I won’t admit to being smitten by him, but I’ve gone from hater - not going as far as joining the short army - to appreciating his work. I appreciate his moderate stance on climate even though I think his solution to renewable energy is not achievable.
I try to judge people based on actions and words. Musk isn’t perfect but I’ve not found evidence to place him firmly in the bad guy camp with Bill Gates, Klaus, etc.
Maybe you will be correct, it’s in the realm of possibility even if I think it’s not probable. I think we can both agree that watching the blue check Twitterati self-immolate is going to be great fun.
Sorry, but how does supporting the coup of an elected official in Bolivia in order to facilitate lithium mining for a spuriously green transport model [electric cars] not land someone squarely in the bad guy camp? #askingforafriend
Beyond a snarky tweet I’m not familiar with his involvement. I’m sure he was happy to get access to cheap raw materials. Is there evidence that he lobbied the CIA? That seems possible I guess.
Either way, not his finest moment. And he’s no saint. But I also don’t think he’s in the Gates and Schwab baddie crowd.
Certainly. Around the time when Trump was elected in 2016, Senator Chuck Schumer remarked that Trump would be given little choice but to follow the alphabet agencies' orders:
“Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s host Rachel Maddow.
Thanks for the link. It’s a good point that the Deep State can fuck you up if they want, I guess ask JFK how that went.
To admit that the DS has the power to murder Presidents or derail their administration is one thing. To take that several steps further and say that the CIA is allowing Musk to purchase a company is another. That might be true, but in how many universes? I believe there are more universes where this is false than true.
My current line of thinking takes me to the SEC and then stepping in to block the sale. I’ve not really thought the entire thing through so that might be absurd...seems possible though.
So you think allowing the ds the power to murder presidents is acceptable? Yet you think Musk circumventing sec rules on purchasing companies is sacrosanct? Explain please how extrajudicial killings of adversaries are more egregious than securities fraud?
The laws in the United States are broad enough and far-reaching enough that a pretext can always be found to ensure that the establishment gets what it wants.
“He will have to comply or they will fuck him up.”
Pure speculation. I don’t think Musks government contacts are in conflict with Twitter content moderation policy or practice. While I don’t deny the existence of a globohomo cabal arguing that Twitter policy and SpaceX contracts are somehow intertwined is a big stretch.
Ofc it is speculation because I am talking about the future. But it's *exactly* what the feds did with Zukerberg and he fell in line PDQ, remember?
Well if Zuckerberg is compromised (it seems likely) then he was compromised from day 1. Elon isn’t acting like someone who is compromised.
Maybe in time Bezos and Blue Origin steps up and SpaceX is marginalized. But until that happens they need SpaceX as much or more than SpaceX needs them.
You appear to trust that Musk's motives are virtuous more than I do.
Yes, for sure. I find Musk to be one of the most fascinating people around. I used to be a hater while finding him interesting. So I began watching every interview and podcast I could find of his. I might have been through all of them on YT and Rumble at this point.
I won’t admit to being smitten by him, but I’ve gone from hater - not going as far as joining the short army - to appreciating his work. I appreciate his moderate stance on climate even though I think his solution to renewable energy is not achievable.
I try to judge people based on actions and words. Musk isn’t perfect but I’ve not found evidence to place him firmly in the bad guy camp with Bill Gates, Klaus, etc.
Maybe you will be correct, it’s in the realm of possibility even if I think it’s not probable. I think we can both agree that watching the blue check Twitterati self-immolate is going to be great fun.
> Yes, for sure. I find Musk to be one of the most fascinating people around.
I agree. In the same was as Anna Sorokin or Adam Neumann. Absolutely fascinating. I'm perfectly serious.
Sorry, but how does supporting the coup of an elected official in Bolivia in order to facilitate lithium mining for a spuriously green transport model [electric cars] not land someone squarely in the bad guy camp? #askingforafriend
Beyond a snarky tweet I’m not familiar with his involvement. I’m sure he was happy to get access to cheap raw materials. Is there evidence that he lobbied the CIA? That seems possible I guess.
Either way, not his finest moment. And he’s no saint. But I also don’t think he’s in the Gates and Schwab baddie crowd.
"They have six ways until Sunday...."
Please elaborate one just one. I’m ignorant but I’d like to learn.
Certainly. Around the time when Trump was elected in 2016, Senator Chuck Schumer remarked that Trump would be given little choice but to follow the alphabet agencies' orders:
“Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s host Rachel Maddow.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/schumer-intelligence-agencies-have-six-ways-from-sunday-of-getting-back-at-you/ contains a link to the interview in question.
Thanks for the link. It’s a good point that the Deep State can fuck you up if they want, I guess ask JFK how that went.
To admit that the DS has the power to murder Presidents or derail their administration is one thing. To take that several steps further and say that the CIA is allowing Musk to purchase a company is another. That might be true, but in how many universes? I believe there are more universes where this is false than true.
My current line of thinking takes me to the SEC and then stepping in to block the sale. I’ve not really thought the entire thing through so that might be absurd...seems possible though.
So you think allowing the ds the power to murder presidents is acceptable? Yet you think Musk circumventing sec rules on purchasing companies is sacrosanct? Explain please how extrajudicial killings of adversaries are more egregious than securities fraud?
The laws in the United States are broad enough and far-reaching enough that a pretext can always be found to ensure that the establishment gets what it wants.
And it's perfectly legal.