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Riff McClavin's avatar

The number of things of which an American can be proud of their country continues its diminishing spiral.

Obama, as bad as he is, at least didn't prosecute Assange; that bit of traitorous stupidity was left to Donald Trump (and now continues under Biden. Please don't speak to me of Trump as any kind of viable choice in 2024.) Both parties only champion rot.

There are a handful of issues that allow us to illuminate our principles clearly and without equivocation. America's prosecution of Julian Assange diminishes us all.

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JohnOnKaui's avatar

IMHO Obama didn't do Assange any favors. Assange was in the Ecuadoran Embassy until 2019. He entered it under Obama.

IOW, you give Obama a break he doesn't deserve.

WRT Trump, he's as viable as anyone. Now whether or not you want to see him as president again, that's a different question. Let's say Obama v. Trump, who would you prefer? I sincerely do not know.

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Riff McClavin's avatar

You glossed over my "as bad as Obama is" apparently. Both Obama and Trump as pieces of shit, and therefore, in your theoretical matchup, it would be my pleasure to vote for neither.

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JohnOnKaui's avatar

You said "at least didn't prosecute Assange;".

I give him no credit for not prosecuting Assange when he could have stopped it.

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Riff McClavin's avatar

Perhaps my calling him a piece of shit wasn't clear enough? Lol

My bigger point -- seemingly missed -- is that Obama will not be running in 2024; Trump likely will be and there will no doubt be those crawling out of the woodwork propping him us as a viable candidate. He is not, (and if Obama were running again, I wouldn't vote for him either.)

Let me repeat: both parties champion rot.

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