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Yeah, that might stand if you haven't literally dismissed "one woman's death" as an outlier. which in and of itself is outrageous but puts down every single woman fighting for what they need in Iran and the efforts they have gone through. Efforts that *they* guide. Your US-based outrage on their behalf and subsequent erasure to push back on US-based outrage is shaped by the imperialist country you're from. (And for full disclosure I'm from the US too). You can call those things out without doing the exact framework it blooms from.

It very much comes across as you don't really care about that population you're just using it for your agenda on that population.

We can do both.

If you want to push back on that one sided narrative you can and I applaud that. I just strongly recommend you don't do it as the mirror behavior of what you think you're fighting because you're doing neither population a justice on their behalf.

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"While we're discussing women's (or men's) rights in Iran or elsewhere"

You and I aren't discussing women's rights. We're discussing your personal response to what you saw as an US imperialistic response leading you to attempt to erase the right of women all over the world to speak up, their experience, their activism, their voices, their tragedy, their successes, by using those experiences of women in the US as leverage for your outrage, which is, very American btw.

So you can try to shift if you want. But, not everyone is going down the deflection train with you.

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I, a usian, don't get to tell you, a usian, not to erase women's fight for their own liberation across the globe by using other women's oppression in the US because of your personal response?

Here's the deal. You said what you said. Own it. Correct it going forward. Because I'm not going to be the only one telling you whats up and "you don't get to tell me" isn't going to do much of anything about people pointing it out, especially since you keep doing it (Sandra Bland and what happened to her isn't your ticket out of foot in mouth on the internet; you brought her up for that sole point and that should make you hold up for a second)

Choose who you're going to hurt or not hurt, use or not use in your discourse as you go forward.

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