I must say left wingers are far more dangerous than right wingers. Your version of the lie is so much more sophisticated and convincing. NYT gives it all a great heft and gravitas. I prefer the earnest pathos of conservative media with it’s authentic jingoism and an ever present 2nd amendment vibe.
I hear you. I can no longer watch or read the MSM because it makes me feel like visiting a re-education camp. So I let Caitlin, Taibbi, Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, etc. do the watching and critiquing for me. However, Tucker Carlson does appeal, but only because he is the only MSM host (I’m aware of) who occasionally invites Greenwald and Dore as guests. But that does not mean I have developed a leaning for the right or think the right “less dangerous”, because I find the entire left/right framing as the root element of the psyop known as The Narrative. It's blind belief in the left/right framing that is dangerous.
Take away the left/right framing and most of us could have civil, even enjoyable conversations with people with whom we disagree, because outside that stage-managed world of the MSM and the scripted soundbites of our politician-hypnotists and their mass formation cults, natural humans are multi-faceted, far more complex, and completely unique (and often inconsistent) in their views.
Old habits die hard and I still frequently find myself using the thoroughly ingrained left/right framing, too. But I’m trying to break that habit because it seems to me that one of the most effective ways we can defend our individual and collective liberty is to completely reject the left/right nonsense.
The left/right framing is still used mostly because it's all we've got, and binary choices are so appealing to our brains. Our rotten and restrictive two party system still reflects this but anyone paying attention to politics in this post-Trump era can only conclude that such labels are only useful as tools for elitist framing. Better to have us fighting each other than hauling the oligarchs before tribunals, right?
So Trump is a Nazi and Biden is a radical left Socialist. Anyone still beating those left/right partisan drums should be given wide quarter.
Perhaps they are the same thing but appealing to different audiences.
I wish Caitlin would stop taking about "capitalism" and concentrate on the greed of a few sociopaths who use the "brand" of "capitalism" to screw the "rest of us".
I have a slightly different read. I think capitalism fosters greed, which is better than the lethargy of socialism/government control. For me the problem is we simply don’t pay people enough. We got rid of all our manufacturing jobs and people are left in low skill service jobs with no pay . I know it’s not hard or meaningful work but these people need to be able to live with dignity. Raise minimum wage to $20 an hour so people can live and get rid of all the bullshit government program, they are make work projects for the public sector without much for the poor. Then I unleash the ambitious to be as green as they want - it’s in their nature.
While it may be true that "capitalism fosters greed" the corollary is that "socialism fosters sloth". Neither statement is completely true, but each holds some truth.
I never read it, but I appreciate the title of Ayn Rand's book, "The Virtue of Selfishness." My family came to visit in Florida and I wanted to know what they wanted to do. No one would say for fear of revealing themselves to be "selfish". I had only been there a couple of months. I didn't know what there was to do. Com'on guys Speak UP!
As far as raising the minimum wage, I support it in principle but also recognize the threat to me because I have to live on my retirement savings. It once seemed like more than I'd ever need, but it isn't at all difficult for me to imagine now living in my car. (probably a stupid nightmare, but it still exists.)
America's financial institutions are being manipulated in multiple ways to squeeze the "rest of us" (anyone, and I truly mean anyone who isn't a Billionaire).
I must say left wingers are far more dangerous than right wingers. Your version of the lie is so much more sophisticated and convincing. NYT gives it all a great heft and gravitas. I prefer the earnest pathos of conservative media with it’s authentic jingoism and an ever present 2nd amendment vibe.
I would submit there is no distinction between right wing and left wing lies as far as the NYT is concerned. They will support any and all.
I hear you. I can no longer watch or read the MSM because it makes me feel like visiting a re-education camp. So I let Caitlin, Taibbi, Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, etc. do the watching and critiquing for me. However, Tucker Carlson does appeal, but only because he is the only MSM host (I’m aware of) who occasionally invites Greenwald and Dore as guests. But that does not mean I have developed a leaning for the right or think the right “less dangerous”, because I find the entire left/right framing as the root element of the psyop known as The Narrative. It's blind belief in the left/right framing that is dangerous.
Take away the left/right framing and most of us could have civil, even enjoyable conversations with people with whom we disagree, because outside that stage-managed world of the MSM and the scripted soundbites of our politician-hypnotists and their mass formation cults, natural humans are multi-faceted, far more complex, and completely unique (and often inconsistent) in their views.
Old habits die hard and I still frequently find myself using the thoroughly ingrained left/right framing, too. But I’m trying to break that habit because it seems to me that one of the most effective ways we can defend our individual and collective liberty is to completely reject the left/right nonsense.
Very well said
The left/right framing is still used mostly because it's all we've got, and binary choices are so appealing to our brains. Our rotten and restrictive two party system still reflects this but anyone paying attention to politics in this post-Trump era can only conclude that such labels are only useful as tools for elitist framing. Better to have us fighting each other than hauling the oligarchs before tribunals, right?
So Trump is a Nazi and Biden is a radical left Socialist. Anyone still beating those left/right partisan drums should be given wide quarter.
Perhaps they are the same thing but appealing to different audiences.
I wish Caitlin would stop taking about "capitalism" and concentrate on the greed of a few sociopaths who use the "brand" of "capitalism" to screw the "rest of us".
I have a slightly different read. I think capitalism fosters greed, which is better than the lethargy of socialism/government control. For me the problem is we simply don’t pay people enough. We got rid of all our manufacturing jobs and people are left in low skill service jobs with no pay . I know it’s not hard or meaningful work but these people need to be able to live with dignity. Raise minimum wage to $20 an hour so people can live and get rid of all the bullshit government program, they are make work projects for the public sector without much for the poor. Then I unleash the ambitious to be as green as they want - it’s in their nature.
While it may be true that "capitalism fosters greed" the corollary is that "socialism fosters sloth". Neither statement is completely true, but each holds some truth.
I never read it, but I appreciate the title of Ayn Rand's book, "The Virtue of Selfishness." My family came to visit in Florida and I wanted to know what they wanted to do. No one would say for fear of revealing themselves to be "selfish". I had only been there a couple of months. I didn't know what there was to do. Com'on guys Speak UP!
As far as raising the minimum wage, I support it in principle but also recognize the threat to me because I have to live on my retirement savings. It once seemed like more than I'd ever need, but it isn't at all difficult for me to imagine now living in my car. (probably a stupid nightmare, but it still exists.)
America's financial institutions are being manipulated in multiple ways to squeeze the "rest of us" (anyone, and I truly mean anyone who isn't a Billionaire).
Well said