Well, John Stott thought for himself, so I guess he can't have been very representative. But yes - he obviously was influential in UCCF circles - which would explain why IVP published Stephen Sizer.
" . . . my impression is that evangelicals now overwhelmingly focus on penal substition and the notion of biblical authority has dropped away." Interesting comment. I'm guessing that it hasn't dropped away much in UCCF - but it is certainly true that for many people, theology is downstream of culture. (I am guessing that you meant to write downstream.) So I guess the question is "Whatever happened to evangelical theology?"
No, I meant upstream. The more Luddite the theology the worse the pollution downstream.
Whatever happened to evangelical theology is still a good question. There will always be slivers of light, but I think on the one hand there's the theobros / Reformed attack dogs, and on the other hand .. probably there are a lot of hands. It's a long time since David wrote that book.
UCCF is not what it was. I recall a Council strategy weekend in the mid 80s with a few of the older generation still around, Oliver Barclay and one or two older than him. They could recall the early ethos of trying to reclaim the universities intellectually. We all knew that was long gone. CUs were about evangelism. A few years later KLICE (Kirby Lang Institute for Christian Ethics) .. a UCCF-founded institution, detached from UCCF when UCCF refused to publicise KLICE events on the grounds that thinking theologically about ethics wasn't really what they wanted to encourage. Tyndale detached about the same time. So that's pretty clear-cut evidence of dumbing down. And now UCCF has its own scandals, HR abuses rather than sexual, which is some comfort .. they have a long, long track record of treating staff appallingly.
But we've drifted a long way from Caitlin's post and maybe should avoid a UCCF rabbit-hole.
Well, John Stott thought for himself, so I guess he can't have been very representative. But yes - he obviously was influential in UCCF circles - which would explain why IVP published Stephen Sizer.
" . . . my impression is that evangelicals now overwhelmingly focus on penal substition and the notion of biblical authority has dropped away." Interesting comment. I'm guessing that it hasn't dropped away much in UCCF - but it is certainly true that for many people, theology is downstream of culture. (I am guessing that you meant to write downstream.) So I guess the question is "Whatever happened to evangelical theology?"
By the way, what do you think of David F. Wells?
No, I meant upstream. The more Luddite the theology the worse the pollution downstream.
Whatever happened to evangelical theology is still a good question. There will always be slivers of light, but I think on the one hand there's the theobros / Reformed attack dogs, and on the other hand .. probably there are a lot of hands. It's a long time since David wrote that book.
UCCF is not what it was. I recall a Council strategy weekend in the mid 80s with a few of the older generation still around, Oliver Barclay and one or two older than him. They could recall the early ethos of trying to reclaim the universities intellectually. We all knew that was long gone. CUs were about evangelism. A few years later KLICE (Kirby Lang Institute for Christian Ethics) .. a UCCF-founded institution, detached from UCCF when UCCF refused to publicise KLICE events on the grounds that thinking theologically about ethics wasn't really what they wanted to encourage. Tyndale detached about the same time. So that's pretty clear-cut evidence of dumbing down. And now UCCF has its own scandals, HR abuses rather than sexual, which is some comfort .. they have a long, long track record of treating staff appallingly.
But we've drifted a long way from Caitlin's post and maybe should avoid a UCCF rabbit-hole.
Ahhh. I see what you mean by upstream.
And yes, I am sure enough has been said about UCCF.