but don’t forget Israel would STILL be pursuing similar poliices and agendas regardless of the preseence of ‘ground water reserves’. No one is saying they wouldn’t I am merely saying that the presence of gas is not insignificant to Western interests.
>>"I am merely saying that the presence of gas is not insignificant to Western interests."
And I'm directly contesting that. The presence of gas (in and around Palestine) are relatively insignificant (in proportionality) in the realm of all other things considered. It's like the cherry-on-top of the cake. Good, yes. Most important reason or predominant cause, no.
I think demented Genocide Joe revealed that out loud on video. "israel our unsinkable aircraft carrier. If israel did not exist we would have to invent it." Yes, the corner stone to controlling oil of the entire Middle East. So many papers written about destroying the seven countries for control. Ask Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi what he thinks, oh you can't.
For the benefit of those who don’t already know, “controlling oil” means controlling the access to the oil and controlling the flow of the oil in order to control the oil prices. Too little flow results in high prices. Too much flow results in low prices and lower profits in classic supply and demand scenarios.
Libya’s Ghaddafi and Iraq’s Saddam Hussein were not willing to have their oil prices dictated by OPEC and US private oil companies. Neither do the Russians and Venezuelans, today.
Beyond all of this, the world must stop the extraction and burning of fossil fuels, immediately — but that’s unlikely to happen as long as fossil fuels enjoy Trillions of dollars of annual subsidies from the governments of the USA and a few other countries.
I don't think I'm qualified enough (or have enough detailed knowledge of the inner workings of the U.S. Empire) to pick ONE THING as the most important cause.
There are many variables, all permutating and combining in various ways - some of these serve the interests of the U.S. Empire, while others don't.
What is important for people to understand (above and beyond everything else) is that Israel exists (and is allowed to get away with what it is doing currently) ONLY because it serves the interests of the U.S. Empire (in too many ways to go into it here). And to reiterate, I said here U.S. EMPIRE - not America, not American people. THE U.S. EMPIRE (empire managers and global corporations).
Control of access to oil/gas, a military listening post and staging area, a cache of nuclear weapons in the Middle East are some reasons.
These are interests exposed in public records.
Israel exists only at the pleasure of the US government. Without the flow of weapons of mass destruction from the USA, since 1948, the Israelis would have succumbed to the massive numbers of Palestinians, long ago.
There may be other reasons. The Zionists have allegedly had the support of extremely wealthy financiers who want a country they can call their own, without earning it. I have no proof of that.
I am open to your suggestions, but don’t want you to expose any secrets that may cause blowback upon you.
There is much more to it than what you mention above. But to understand that, one also needs to understand the deep history of the MENA region and the global interests of others (especially during the Cold War years) in the region - Russia, European powers, Middle-Eastern wanna-be powers like Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia (and at one point in time Egypt), the U.S., and more.
Also to note is that the U.S. Empire does not really care about Jews, Hindus, Christians, Muslims, whatever - nor does it care about any of these religions. The U.S. Empire seeks hegemonic power and control in pursuit of profits (above all else). Think CAPITALISM on steroids.
but don’t forget Israel would STILL be pursuing similar poliices and agendas regardless of the preseence of ‘ground water reserves’. No one is saying they wouldn’t I am merely saying that the presence of gas is not insignificant to Western interests.
Your interest seems to be in being contrary.
>>"I am merely saying that the presence of gas is not insignificant to Western interests."
And I'm directly contesting that. The presence of gas (in and around Palestine) are relatively insignificant (in proportionality) in the realm of all other things considered. It's like the cherry-on-top of the cake. Good, yes. Most important reason or predominant cause, no.
Chang Chokaski,
In your opinion, what is the most important or predominant cause?
I think demented Genocide Joe revealed that out loud on video. "israel our unsinkable aircraft carrier. If israel did not exist we would have to invent it." Yes, the corner stone to controlling oil of the entire Middle East. So many papers written about destroying the seven countries for control. Ask Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi what he thinks, oh you can't.
Landru,
For the benefit of those who don’t already know, “controlling oil” means controlling the access to the oil and controlling the flow of the oil in order to control the oil prices. Too little flow results in high prices. Too much flow results in low prices and lower profits in classic supply and demand scenarios.
Libya’s Ghaddafi and Iraq’s Saddam Hussein were not willing to have their oil prices dictated by OPEC and US private oil companies. Neither do the Russians and Venezuelans, today.
Beyond all of this, the world must stop the extraction and burning of fossil fuels, immediately — but that’s unlikely to happen as long as fossil fuels enjoy Trillions of dollars of annual subsidies from the governments of the USA and a few other countries.
I don't think I'm qualified enough (or have enough detailed knowledge of the inner workings of the U.S. Empire) to pick ONE THING as the most important cause.
There are many variables, all permutating and combining in various ways - some of these serve the interests of the U.S. Empire, while others don't.
What is important for people to understand (above and beyond everything else) is that Israel exists (and is allowed to get away with what it is doing currently) ONLY because it serves the interests of the U.S. Empire (in too many ways to go into it here). And to reiterate, I said here U.S. EMPIRE - not America, not American people. THE U.S. EMPIRE (empire managers and global corporations).
Chang Chokaski,
I don’t mean to put you on the spot, publicly.
Control of access to oil/gas, a military listening post and staging area, a cache of nuclear weapons in the Middle East are some reasons.
These are interests exposed in public records.
Israel exists only at the pleasure of the US government. Without the flow of weapons of mass destruction from the USA, since 1948, the Israelis would have succumbed to the massive numbers of Palestinians, long ago.
There may be other reasons. The Zionists have allegedly had the support of extremely wealthy financiers who want a country they can call their own, without earning it. I have no proof of that.
I am open to your suggestions, but don’t want you to expose any secrets that may cause blowback upon you.
There is much more to it than what you mention above. But to understand that, one also needs to understand the deep history of the MENA region and the global interests of others (especially during the Cold War years) in the region - Russia, European powers, Middle-Eastern wanna-be powers like Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia (and at one point in time Egypt), the U.S., and more.
Also to note is that the U.S. Empire does not really care about Jews, Hindus, Christians, Muslims, whatever - nor does it care about any of these religions. The U.S. Empire seeks hegemonic power and control in pursuit of profits (above all else). Think CAPITALISM on steroids.