Though man has done a good job trashing the planet, the elephant in the sky remains hidden to most. There can be no legitimate discussion regarding the climate without first mentioning what is going on in the sky above us. That's those airplanes leaving tic tak toing white trails above.
Solar radiation management, aka geoengineering is compounding our problems while being promoted as a tool to help slow global warming. The climate isn't changing, it's being manipulated.
In addition, weather warfare is the crown jewel of the military industrial complex. Drought conditions one arear, pummeling rain in others.
I have no opinion of Greta one way or another. However, anyone claiming to be concerned about the damage being done to the planet must start with geoengineering. For more info, geoengineeringwatch.org with Dane Wigington.
"He who controls the weather controls the world." LBJ 1962
Yes, airplanes leave trails and sometimes they linger depending on the humidity and conditions. There’s no evidence that they are part of a plot and if they were they would cause cooling not warming. I’ve looked at geoengineeringwatch and it seems to be sensationalised pictures of people in hazmat suits but sitting indoors on computers. https://jowaller.substack.com/p/climate-change-hasnt-been-debunked?utm_source=publication-search
SRM is opposed by most climate scientists, is at the testing stage, is very limited, it would again cause cooling and cannot explain the observed faster warming in winters and nights like co2 emissions can. Weather modification such as cloud seeding is not being used as warfare and also doesn’t explain observed reality.
The climate is indeed being changed by humans, with emissions and changes in land use for animal ag. To believe that it’s caused by conspirators is a joke.
"Weather modification such as cloud seeding is not being used as warfare............."Was there a time when something that could be used by the military for warfare was not used? Anything? I'm unaware of such a time. This is particularly true with something as potentially effective as destroying the livelihood of your perceived adversary while blaming mother nature.
Making it rain a bit in Dubai does not destroy livelihoods, though, of course, it does mess with the system.
Yes, AI and satnavs are being used to make enemy planes fly into mountains. Drones and robots do what humans can’t do.
But saying that human climate change is not caused by warfare, fossil fuels and animal ag but by chemtrails, a few tests on SRM in the stratosphere and cloud seeding is just stupid.
However, climate colonialism is destroying livelihoods. The more the West continues to make war, burn and deforest, the more the poor and the Global South will continue to suffer the consequences of the climate crisis. The more crops will fail, the more people will die.
I can only speak for myself. Yes, the rising earth's temperatures are partly a result of human activity. So, to ward of this problem, the powers that shouldn't be decided to start dimming the sun to buy a little time.
This has caused additional problems like the thinning of the ozone layer.
Solar radiation management, aka geoengineering, is different from cloud seeding. Weather warfare is using patented technology, easily readable on the internet, to achieve various agendas.
For example, Hurricane Helene was not normal. The rainfall totals were not normal. The agendas involved? I'll leave that up to readers if they want to investigate.
Hurricane Helene was of course a normal event of extreme weather being more extreme due to human induced climate and environmental change. The agendas involved in claiming that it was deliberate and not part of anthropogenic climate change which should be addressed? I'll leave it up to readers if they want to investigate.
Welcome to substack, Francis/Clare - this is 'Conspiracy Central' - where conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers, etc. of the world seem to congregate (other than places like 4chan, 8kun, and the like).
What if the public was intentionally misled by project syndicate? It could have certainly buried them deep in an unknown world of lies with 21 trillion dollars worth of money missing.
Cloud seeding is done with small aircraft with visible tanks, and has zero to do with (mostly water) vapor trails left by commercial jet planes.
The real threat to the environment is that there are too many of us for the earth to support, and our overpopulation is driving all other life forms to extinction. The powers that be are not in favor of limiting our exploding birth rates because they want an unlimited supply of canon fodder and slave labor, which is why they took over and subverted the message of Zero Population Growth and obliterated this truth from the public consciousness. These rich overlords are short sighted, blinded by too much money, and thus cannot see the inevitable result when Mother Nature takes over at the helm of population control. It won't be pretty.
Overpopulation has never, and will never, be an issue. It's resource distribution and rate of consumption.
Every single "overpopulation" rant I have seen assumes that the US generic white picket fence suburban household is how we should live, despite the fact that it has always been a hyperunsustainable system reliant of mass genocide and imperialism on a global scale.
Population growth trends *downward* when people live in stable conditions, not up. Get over yourself.
I've just seen a post saying that driving a Tesla does something to the blood. The health freedom movement has completely discredited itself by falling for this nonsense that was deliberately targeted at them by the Heartland Institute and other organisations funded by big fossil fuel, arms and animal ag (pharma's biggest client) about a WEF conspiracy faking climate change with geoengineering to depopulate and destroy the West.
There's no evidence that disease is caused by invisible contagions (though of course stress may cause bacteria to proliferate). Vaccines appear to be useless and harmful (though they don't constitute a genocide). But no one is listening. They think we're all mad.
You can disagree all you want - with anything and everything - Israeli Zionists ALSO disagree with there being a real Genocide (and many other things). They (Israeli Zionists) also have their OWN evidence.
Go knock yourself out - but don't expect to be taken seriously by others (just as Israeli Zionists are not taken at faith value for their beliefs).
Oh so I'm a genocide apologist for questioning the scientific evidence and what we're told by giant cartels like big pharma (and Israel) who are in bed with governments.
Polio is not caused by an invisible contagion. It is caused by a virus which is too small to be seen by the naked eye but which can seen with the aid of an electron microscope. This is not an assertion; it is established fact.
Does the polio vaccine work? Yes, and that is also an established fact. It is not something you decide by reading whatever you choose to read on the internet.
Is gravity real? You can probably find contrary views on the internet, or you can test it yourself by jumping out of a second-story window. I encourage you to try it.
Polio is ‘invisible’ under EM too. How come ‘they’ (ie things that look like what people think viruses should look like, ie tiny round artefacts) are never found in ‘positive’ samples from patients and only in stressed cell cultures? How are these things that are said to be causative of disease (and not perhaps the result of it) been shown to be transmissible and pathogenic particles when the process of EM immobilises them in resin? https://jowaller.substack.com/p/seeing-is-believing
Things like the polio vaccine working are only ‘established’ facts if you confine yourself to pharma marketing website wikipedia. Noting the number of deaths from a disease and noting when the vaccine was introduced (after all sorts of other changes in public health such as sanitiation, banning of DDT and improved housing) doesn’t prove vaccine efficacy nor vaccine effectiveness (which are different things). The measles vaccine eg was introduced in 1968 when morbidity and mortality from the detox event called ‘measles’ was already virtually zero. The mRNA Pfizer jab in tests had an absolute efficacy (at preventing common symptoms) of 0.85%, not clinically significant. You might have to look up the difference between absolute and relative efficacy.
I’m not going to address your silly last point. You’re not a serious questioning person.
Thank you for bringing up public health improvements such as sanitary sewage treatment and disposal. Because there's a link in that to the polio epidemic. The disease of poliomyelitis has been around in humans for a long, long time, but only in the late 19th and early 20th century did we begin to experience epidemics of devastating paralytic polio. Why is that?
Turns out, the polio virus is excreted abundantly in feces. In pre-modern times, everybody got exposed to the virus early in life and few people developed severe symptoms (even during the epidemics, 75% of those exposed to the virus were asymptomatic). As a result, mothers transferred their acquired polio immunity to their babies, and within a relatively short time those babies in turn received exposure to the virus (because of poor sanitation) and developed life-long immunity. Everything was stable until the modern improvements in sewage disposal.
But with that improvement, babies no longer developed their own immunity and after the loss of maternal immunity they were vulnerable to the virus. And those who fell ill were at risk to the worst symptoms, such as paralysis. In 1949 the virus was isolated by from cultured cells that were capable of allowing viral reproduction. That step in turn allowed Salk and Sabin to develop vaccines based on either killed virus (Salk, 1955) or attenuated live virus (Sabin, 1961). Here's a useful source: https://polioeradication.org/about-polio/history-of-polio/
None of this had anything to do with DDT, which was only developed in the 1940s and then used recklessly until the 1970s. At the time DDT use was increasing, polio incidence was declining. Perhaps you should argue that DDT prevents polio, because that at least has a positive correlation of events.
No it was not magic. It was the banning of DDT and the reclassification of the common and uncommon symptoms of polio 'Polio has common symptoms of detoxification such as fever, fatigue, nausea, vomiting, sore throat, stomach pain, headache, stiffness in the neck and limbs as well as sometimes acute paralysis (mostly in summer months when most spraying happened) and death, and was claimed by doctors to be one disease'
as other diseases
'In 1955, the year the Salk vaccine for polio was introduced, patients with symptoms of aseptic meningitis and coxsackie virus were no longer included in a diagnosis of polio. A concerted effect was also made to distinguish conditions such as acute flaccid paralysis, transverse myelitis, Reye’s syndrome, GBS and chronic fatigue syndrome that would have previously been labelled as polio. These changes made the vaccine appear effective against polio, although it wasn’t.'
Why do I bother writing and linking to posts if people just comment without reading them.
Dane is controlled opposition. I know him. Geoengineering is real. So good job. But YOU can do better than following the false challengers against the established rulers. People like Malone or Johnstone or Jeff Sachs. We have been played for so long. You can't hear any other music. Media control is so overwhelming that rap has entered country music. This is not organic. It is funded from the top down. Funded because black culture was so successfully destroyed by gangsta rap that it was unleashed on the last batch of Christians.
The culture destroying despots who brought you sibling porn and child castration dystopia by your own schools will stop at nothing to bring digital global prison by biological digital i.d. /social credits / Palantir surveillance with Stargate. You are not sovereign and neither is the U.S. Reject the puppeteers and relay your own abilities into stopping war by maggot class bankers who swindle through the bank of international Settlements.
Though man has done a good job trashing the planet, the elephant in the sky remains hidden to most. There can be no legitimate discussion regarding the climate without first mentioning what is going on in the sky above us. That's those airplanes leaving tic tak toing white trails above.
Solar radiation management, aka geoengineering is compounding our problems while being promoted as a tool to help slow global warming. The climate isn't changing, it's being manipulated.
In addition, weather warfare is the crown jewel of the military industrial complex. Drought conditions one arear, pummeling rain in others.
I have no opinion of Greta one way or another. However, anyone claiming to be concerned about the damage being done to the planet must start with geoengineering. For more info, geoengineeringwatch.org with Dane Wigington.
"He who controls the weather controls the world." LBJ 1962
Like I said. People hear what they want to hear.
Yes, airplanes leave trails and sometimes they linger depending on the humidity and conditions. There’s no evidence that they are part of a plot and if they were they would cause cooling not warming. I’ve looked at geoengineeringwatch and it seems to be sensationalised pictures of people in hazmat suits but sitting indoors on computers. https://jowaller.substack.com/p/climate-change-hasnt-been-debunked?utm_source=publication-search
SRM is opposed by most climate scientists, is at the testing stage, is very limited, it would again cause cooling and cannot explain the observed faster warming in winters and nights like co2 emissions can. Weather modification such as cloud seeding is not being used as warfare and also doesn’t explain observed reality.
The climate is indeed being changed by humans, with emissions and changes in land use for animal ag. To believe that it’s caused by conspirators is a joke.
"Weather modification such as cloud seeding is not being used as warfare............."Was there a time when something that could be used by the military for warfare was not used? Anything? I'm unaware of such a time. This is particularly true with something as potentially effective as destroying the livelihood of your perceived adversary while blaming mother nature.
Making it rain a bit in Dubai does not destroy livelihoods, though, of course, it does mess with the system.
Yes, AI and satnavs are being used to make enemy planes fly into mountains. Drones and robots do what humans can’t do.
But saying that human climate change is not caused by warfare, fossil fuels and animal ag but by chemtrails, a few tests on SRM in the stratosphere and cloud seeding is just stupid.
However, climate colonialism is destroying livelihoods. The more the West continues to make war, burn and deforest, the more the poor and the Global South will continue to suffer the consequences of the climate crisis. The more crops will fail, the more people will die.
I can only speak for myself. Yes, the rising earth's temperatures are partly a result of human activity. So, to ward of this problem, the powers that shouldn't be decided to start dimming the sun to buy a little time.
This has caused additional problems like the thinning of the ozone layer.
Solar radiation management, aka geoengineering, is different from cloud seeding. Weather warfare is using patented technology, easily readable on the internet, to achieve various agendas.
For example, Hurricane Helene was not normal. The rainfall totals were not normal. The agendas involved? I'll leave that up to readers if they want to investigate.
I agree. SRM is complete crap in itself and as a way to avoid addressing climate change . I've written about it at length. https://jowaller.substack.com/p/im-anti-vax-and-anti-geoengineering?utm_source=publication-search
Hurricane Helene was of course a normal event of extreme weather being more extreme due to human induced climate and environmental change. The agendas involved in claiming that it was deliberate and not part of anthropogenic climate change which should be addressed? I'll leave it up to readers if they want to investigate.
Just when we most need a massive dose of truth and reality, we find a conspiracy theorist under every rock.
Welcome to substack, Francis/Clare - this is 'Conspiracy Central' - where conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers, etc. of the world seem to congregate (other than places like 4chan, 8kun, and the like).
Expert my friend expert : )
What if the public was intentionally misled by project syndicate? It could have certainly buried them deep in an unknown world of lies with 21 trillion dollars worth of money missing.
Not clear what you're saying.
Cloud seeding is done with small aircraft with visible tanks, and has zero to do with (mostly water) vapor trails left by commercial jet planes.
The real threat to the environment is that there are too many of us for the earth to support, and our overpopulation is driving all other life forms to extinction. The powers that be are not in favor of limiting our exploding birth rates because they want an unlimited supply of canon fodder and slave labor, which is why they took over and subverted the message of Zero Population Growth and obliterated this truth from the public consciousness. These rich overlords are short sighted, blinded by too much money, and thus cannot see the inevitable result when Mother Nature takes over at the helm of population control. It won't be pretty.
Watch Snowpiercer
Overpopulation has never, and will never, be an issue. It's resource distribution and rate of consumption.
Every single "overpopulation" rant I have seen assumes that the US generic white picket fence suburban household is how we should live, despite the fact that it has always been a hyperunsustainable system reliant of mass genocide and imperialism on a global scale.
Population growth trends *downward* when people live in stable conditions, not up. Get over yourself.
👆Truth
It's not population it's the activity of the richest 10% of them. https://jowaller.substack.com/p/davos-have-even-turned-equality-into?utm_source=publication-search
It's both.
I've just seen a post saying that driving a Tesla does something to the blood. The health freedom movement has completely discredited itself by falling for this nonsense that was deliberately targeted at them by the Heartland Institute and other organisations funded by big fossil fuel, arms and animal ag (pharma's biggest client) about a WEF conspiracy faking climate change with geoengineering to depopulate and destroy the West.
There's no evidence that disease is caused by invisible contagions (though of course stress may cause bacteria to proliferate). Vaccines appear to be useless and harmful (though they don't constitute a genocide). But no one is listening. They think we're all mad.
>>"There's no evidence that disease is caused by invisible contagions"
No wonder people don't take you seriously on 'climate change' (or any topic) with a statement like that.
>>"Vaccines appear to be useless..."
You're worse than the climate change skeptics that you argue against.
So I’m not allowed to disagree with the evidence, or lack of, for any of your opinions or I am as bad as a climate change skeptics.
Great debating with you.
You can disagree all you want - with anything and everything - Israeli Zionists ALSO disagree with there being a real Genocide (and many other things). They (Israeli Zionists) also have their OWN evidence.
Go knock yourself out - but don't expect to be taken seriously by others (just as Israeli Zionists are not taken at faith value for their beliefs).
Read about Z.I.M. from Paul Cudenec. He dug into the what is behind the curtain. I had to read Antony Sutton.
Sheesh! Yet another conspiracy theorist - everyone wants to look behind the curtain while not realizing that the curtain is their mind.
Oh so I'm a genocide apologist for questioning the scientific evidence and what we're told by giant cartels like big pharma (and Israel) who are in bed with governments.
The corporate state has moved past financial proceeds and is largely about control over governments and entire regions.
Jo Waller - the world would have to invent (and name) a whole new level of 'stupid' just for you.
Don't try so hard to win the 'Darwin awards' - you're a natural born clincher for it.
The chaos is constant to drive you mad and divide you. Only a few boardrooms full of sociopaths have to be eliminated and we can have peace
Polio
This made me laugh out loud. What about polio? Is is caused by toxins or invisible contagions? Did the vaccine help in anyway? You decide https://jowaller.substack.com/p/toxicology-vs-virology-the-rockefeller?utm_source=publication-search
Polio is not caused by an invisible contagion. It is caused by a virus which is too small to be seen by the naked eye but which can seen with the aid of an electron microscope. This is not an assertion; it is established fact.
Does the polio vaccine work? Yes, and that is also an established fact. It is not something you decide by reading whatever you choose to read on the internet.
Is gravity real? You can probably find contrary views on the internet, or you can test it yourself by jumping out of a second-story window. I encourage you to try it.
Trolls love the circular arguments. I appreciate your efforts though : )
Polio is ‘invisible’ under EM too. How come ‘they’ (ie things that look like what people think viruses should look like, ie tiny round artefacts) are never found in ‘positive’ samples from patients and only in stressed cell cultures? How are these things that are said to be causative of disease (and not perhaps the result of it) been shown to be transmissible and pathogenic particles when the process of EM immobilises them in resin? https://jowaller.substack.com/p/seeing-is-believing
Things like the polio vaccine working are only ‘established’ facts if you confine yourself to pharma marketing website wikipedia. Noting the number of deaths from a disease and noting when the vaccine was introduced (after all sorts of other changes in public health such as sanitiation, banning of DDT and improved housing) doesn’t prove vaccine efficacy nor vaccine effectiveness (which are different things). The measles vaccine eg was introduced in 1968 when morbidity and mortality from the detox event called ‘measles’ was already virtually zero. The mRNA Pfizer jab in tests had an absolute efficacy (at preventing common symptoms) of 0.85%, not clinically significant. You might have to look up the difference between absolute and relative efficacy.
I’m not going to address your silly last point. You’re not a serious questioning person.
Tell me about all the people around you with polio. Do you even hear yourself?
Thank you for bringing up public health improvements such as sanitary sewage treatment and disposal. Because there's a link in that to the polio epidemic. The disease of poliomyelitis has been around in humans for a long, long time, but only in the late 19th and early 20th century did we begin to experience epidemics of devastating paralytic polio. Why is that?
Turns out, the polio virus is excreted abundantly in feces. In pre-modern times, everybody got exposed to the virus early in life and few people developed severe symptoms (even during the epidemics, 75% of those exposed to the virus were asymptomatic). As a result, mothers transferred their acquired polio immunity to their babies, and within a relatively short time those babies in turn received exposure to the virus (because of poor sanitation) and developed life-long immunity. Everything was stable until the modern improvements in sewage disposal.
But with that improvement, babies no longer developed their own immunity and after the loss of maternal immunity they were vulnerable to the virus. And those who fell ill were at risk to the worst symptoms, such as paralysis. In 1949 the virus was isolated by from cultured cells that were capable of allowing viral reproduction. That step in turn allowed Salk and Sabin to develop vaccines based on either killed virus (Salk, 1955) or attenuated live virus (Sabin, 1961). Here's a useful source: https://polioeradication.org/about-polio/history-of-polio/
None of this had anything to do with DDT, which was only developed in the 1940s and then used recklessly until the 1970s. At the time DDT use was increasing, polio incidence was declining. Perhaps you should argue that DDT prevents polio, because that at least has a positive correlation of events.
Love your response Duane McPherson! Thank you!
Like I said, you like it cos it agrees with your opinion which doesn't have to be challenged nor any new thinking done.
So it disappeared by magic lol?
No it was not magic. It was the banning of DDT and the reclassification of the common and uncommon symptoms of polio 'Polio has common symptoms of detoxification such as fever, fatigue, nausea, vomiting, sore throat, stomach pain, headache, stiffness in the neck and limbs as well as sometimes acute paralysis (mostly in summer months when most spraying happened) and death, and was claimed by doctors to be one disease'
as other diseases
'In 1955, the year the Salk vaccine for polio was introduced, patients with symptoms of aseptic meningitis and coxsackie virus were no longer included in a diagnosis of polio. A concerted effect was also made to distinguish conditions such as acute flaccid paralysis, transverse myelitis, Reye’s syndrome, GBS and chronic fatigue syndrome that would have previously been labelled as polio. These changes made the vaccine appear effective against polio, although it wasn’t.'
Why do I bother writing and linking to posts if people just comment without reading them.
I think you're insane.
Dane is controlled opposition. I know him. Geoengineering is real. So good job. But YOU can do better than following the false challengers against the established rulers. People like Malone or Johnstone or Jeff Sachs. We have been played for so long. You can't hear any other music. Media control is so overwhelming that rap has entered country music. This is not organic. It is funded from the top down. Funded because black culture was so successfully destroyed by gangsta rap that it was unleashed on the last batch of Christians.
The culture destroying despots who brought you sibling porn and child castration dystopia by your own schools will stop at nothing to bring digital global prison by biological digital i.d. /social credits / Palantir surveillance with Stargate. You are not sovereign and neither is the U.S. Reject the puppeteers and relay your own abilities into stopping war by maggot class bankers who swindle through the bank of international Settlements.
Please stop assuming there's some kind of global conspiracy that billions are in on to fuck with you personally.
It's an absurd egotistical stance and makes people ignore your actual points.
Caitlin's whole premise is that the Empire is not only out to fuck with us personally but has already achieved this aim.
Well she doesn't have to lie that way. She knows what runs this dumpster fire. And secretly, she wants to tell you