You clearly don't understand what Zionism is. Please go away and educate yourself. The hatred for Israel is precisely because it is the only Jewish state and Jews will not be victims. They are fighting back. No one likes a Jew who doesn't know their place. If you really cared about human rights, you would condemn Hamas and Hezbollah rather than focusing on Israel.
I beg to differ. If you’ve researched the origins of Zionism and its tenets you’ll know that from its inception Zionism was a colonial settler movement, with full intent to remove, BY ANY MEANS (my emphasis added) the current population of Palestine and make a homeland for the Jews which would have a Jewish majority. Documents from Israel’s own archives prove the planning, the terrorist attacks against the British to drive them out as well as robbing trains and other locations for money and weapons. They bombed the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, British Mandate HQ, killing Brits, Palestinians, and Jewish people. Using terrorism to achieve the political goal of controlling the Mandate. From 1947 onwards there were mass killings, sometimes just the males, sometimes entire villages were massacred. Ben Gurion didn’t try to hide these atrocities, he wanted the Palestinians to know what was being done in order to make their removal easier. In the end between 700,000 and 750,000 Palestinians were murdered or ethnically cleansed in order to create a country which preferences some of its citizens over others. Their basic laws state Israel is a Jewish state for the Jewish people, in spite of 20% of its citizens not being Jewish.
Most who oppose Zionism and the Israeli state have no antipathy towards Jewish people, many are Jewish, they have a strong aversion to injustice in the form of a brutal occupation, the theft of property and the death and displacement of people from their homes, the ongoing apartheid in the West Bank and East Jerusalem and the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
Genocide is the highest crime with no justification under law. It doesn’t matter what religion the perpetrators are, it’s a crime, the highest crime. Wanting your own state, only for ppl of your religion, doesn’t give license to violate the Geneva Conventions, all international law, and basic human rights. That’s why ppl are opposed to Israel. If Jewish ppl wanted to live in Palestine, in peace with their neighbors they could and did (late 1800’s-1930’s). It was only when the Zionist agenda became known, that these emigres didn’t simply want to live in Palestine, they wanted absolute control of Palestine, and they wanted the Palestinians removed from their homes, villages, never to be allowed to return.
There are many good sources on Zionism. I’d suggest you start with the “new” Israeli historians. I think you’ll find that Zionism isn’t an innocent desire for peace.
I beg to differ. If you’ve researched the origins of Zionism and its tenets you’ll know that from its inception Zionism was a colonial settler movement, with full intent to remove, BY ANY MEANS (my emphasis added) the current population of Palestine and make a homeland for the Jews which would have a Jewish majority. Documents from Israel’s own archives prove the planning, the terrorist attacks against the British to drive them out as well as robbing trains and other locations for money and weapons. They bombed the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, British Mandate HQ, killing Brits, Palestinians, and Jewish people. Using terrorism to achieve the political goal of controlling the Mandate. From 1947 onwards there were mass killings
Jenny, I find it interesting that you assume I am Israeli, and hold me personally responsible for the actions of the Israeli government. You will see in my previous reply that I am British, born in London. I have lived here all my life.
Who counts as a 'good Jewish person?
Jews feel unsafe in many countries as the moment because of the rise in antisemitic attacks. All Jews are being held responsible for the actions of the Israeli government, whatever their views. That in itself is antisemitism. You choosing to personally attack me, holding me responsible, is antisemitic.
So if the Empire had sent Catholics, say, to invade the Middle East instead, they would have been well-loved by the local inhabitants? Is that what you're suggesting?
You clearly don't understand what Zionism is. Please go away and educate yourself. The hatred for Israel is precisely because it is the only Jewish state and Jews will not be victims. They are fighting back. No one likes a Jew who doesn't know their place. If you really cared about human rights, you would condemn Hamas and Hezbollah rather than focusing on Israel.
I beg to differ. If you’ve researched the origins of Zionism and its tenets you’ll know that from its inception Zionism was a colonial settler movement, with full intent to remove, BY ANY MEANS (my emphasis added) the current population of Palestine and make a homeland for the Jews which would have a Jewish majority. Documents from Israel’s own archives prove the planning, the terrorist attacks against the British to drive them out as well as robbing trains and other locations for money and weapons. They bombed the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, British Mandate HQ, killing Brits, Palestinians, and Jewish people. Using terrorism to achieve the political goal of controlling the Mandate. From 1947 onwards there were mass killings, sometimes just the males, sometimes entire villages were massacred. Ben Gurion didn’t try to hide these atrocities, he wanted the Palestinians to know what was being done in order to make their removal easier. In the end between 700,000 and 750,000 Palestinians were murdered or ethnically cleansed in order to create a country which preferences some of its citizens over others. Their basic laws state Israel is a Jewish state for the Jewish people, in spite of 20% of its citizens not being Jewish.
Most who oppose Zionism and the Israeli state have no antipathy towards Jewish people, many are Jewish, they have a strong aversion to injustice in the form of a brutal occupation, the theft of property and the death and displacement of people from their homes, the ongoing apartheid in the West Bank and East Jerusalem and the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
Genocide is the highest crime with no justification under law. It doesn’t matter what religion the perpetrators are, it’s a crime, the highest crime. Wanting your own state, only for ppl of your religion, doesn’t give license to violate the Geneva Conventions, all international law, and basic human rights. That’s why ppl are opposed to Israel. If Jewish ppl wanted to live in Palestine, in peace with their neighbors they could and did (late 1800’s-1930’s). It was only when the Zionist agenda became known, that these emigres didn’t simply want to live in Palestine, they wanted absolute control of Palestine, and they wanted the Palestinians removed from their homes, villages, never to be allowed to return.
There are many good sources on Zionism. I’d suggest you start with the “new” Israeli historians. I think you’ll find that Zionism isn’t an innocent desire for peace.
By armed robbery, aided and abetter by the United States and its catamites?
For that matter, why is it that so many Jews left "the only Jewish state" following October 7th?
I beg to differ. If you’ve researched the origins of Zionism and its tenets you’ll know that from its inception Zionism was a colonial settler movement, with full intent to remove, BY ANY MEANS (my emphasis added) the current population of Palestine and make a homeland for the Jews which would have a Jewish majority. Documents from Israel’s own archives prove the planning, the terrorist attacks against the British to drive them out as well as robbing trains and other locations for money and weapons. They bombed the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, British Mandate HQ, killing Brits, Palestinians, and Jewish people. Using terrorism to achieve the political goal of controlling the Mandate. From 1947 onwards there were mass killings
Lying is unbecoming. Being uneducated is something I can help you with, but lying is a character flaw.
Clare. We are actually educated on here so your words will not make a difference.
You have a brutal/genocidal nature. You allow rape in your prisons/you kill babies and women and please listen.
YOUR country is making good Jewish people feel unsafe all over the world.
Jenny, I find it interesting that you assume I am Israeli, and hold me personally responsible for the actions of the Israeli government. You will see in my previous reply that I am British, born in London. I have lived here all my life.
Who counts as a 'good Jewish person?
Jews feel unsafe in many countries as the moment because of the rise in antisemitic attacks. All Jews are being held responsible for the actions of the Israeli government, whatever their views. That in itself is antisemitism. You choosing to personally attack me, holding me responsible, is antisemitic.
So if the Empire had sent Catholics, say, to invade the Middle East instead, they would have been well-loved by the local inhabitants? Is that what you're suggesting?