The world is one big residential school and Israel is in charge. They can break fingers, starve people, refuse them medical care, disallow any language that they don't understand.
Israel is probably the world leader in perversions and I'm puzzled why shitlibs of the forum would not support it instead of Palestinians who are very conservative and - shock! - against abortions!
To add on to it. If you are born and end up being part of the LGBTQ community, then they will help you die. You don’t have much value if you’re not white and straight.
"“shitlibs” consider a human to be a life once it’s born" - I don't question shitlibs consider that to be the case. That's one of the reasons they're shitlibs.
Re-read my original comment once again and try to put that sacred cow of yours - abortion - to the sidelines just for that one time to really understand what I'm saying.
By the way, I'm amazed at your uniqueness having skipped all the "not life" stages. Somehow you spared some woman what shitlibs consider cancer inside.
Oh, every now and then it's kinda' fun to play the trolls, get 'em stirred up, blathering and expose themselves for who -- and what -- they are. I try not to do it too often, but every now and then it provides some dark entertainment.
Btw, most shitlibs here appear to be siding with Russia against Ukraine. That's hypocritical once more. Ukraine is mini-Israel and as is usual in such cases tries hard to outdo its inspiration and a guide - Israel - re perversions of all kinds. Russia on the other hand is rather conservative, homo propaganda is forbidden etc etc.
So shitlibs should support both Ukraine and Israel. But they are shitlibs, hence hypocrisy is their middle name. Check that - their first and last name too.
Not everyone is limited/contrained by hazy definitions of "liberalism" and "conservatism" like you are.
Get over your limited/dogmatic thinking (I know you can't - it's not in your character).
Trying to place people into neat "black-boxes" and pigeon-holes of "isms" doesn't work - humans and humanity are too complex for such simplistic thinking.
Humans first (regardless of ideology). Live and let live (instead of trying to control everyone's actions and freedoms - even when they have no impact on you).
That is the problem with people like you - you want to make the world in YOUR IMAGE and follow your dictates/dictum (this would make the world even more fucked-up than it already is).
Thank God sociopathic and fascistic people like you are a minority in this world!
I think you misunderstand that part of my comment. By Humans first - it means humanity. i.e. think of humans as humans (without ideologies superimposed on them). Another way of phrasing it is "think of the humans as humans first and foremost". (The statement is not a comparison of humans with any other species in any context).
Fair enough, though it seems to be poorly used language, as 'Aryans first' or 'America first' as comparisons give an idea of how that type of phrasing comes across.
No-one is in charge. We're all on a runaway train without a driver or even any brakes. Those who claim to be in charge are only in charge of extracting wealth from the rest of us, concentrating power for the sake of their own selfish interests. They're an emergent phenomenon, a symptom of disease. Them is Us.
The people who own the stocks and shares in weapons companies, fossil fuel companies and tech companies are in charge. Eisenhower was absolutely prescient and it has indeed come to pass. Profit is the driver for all, human rights be damned.
I suppose it depends on what you mean by "in charge". They have power, certainly, but the power to do what, exactly?
They have the power to fuck us over: to extract the wealth from our labour, concentrate it and waste it on mad schemes to acquire more power, eventually running our society into the ground. But do they have the power to fix this mess? I don't think so.
In the unlikely event that any of the sociopaths at the top of the hierarchy ever developed a conscience, the others would quickly turn on them and divest them of their power.
To say the oligarchs are in charge is like saying a cancerous tumour is in charge of its host.
I think it’s wildly optimistic to believe any oligarch ever wants to fix anything, they just want to accumulate more. They’ll never develop consciences because there’s no profit in that. Their power lies in being able to buy public opinion- it’s the reason Islamophobia is so rampant round the world, why good people like Jamal Bowman loses his seat. And I think they are definitely tumours up in charge of the host, and we ordinary people (the host) just seem to be unable to see a way out. I certainly can’t.
Okay, I basically agree with you, let's not quibble over the definition of "in charge". What I was wanting to get across was that I think our problems stem from looking for a daddy or mummy figure look after us. If we give up the expectation to be led, the childish desire to abdicate our responsibilities to our "betters", then we won't be creating a niche for sociopaths to dominate us and con us into acting against our own interests.
What I'm talking about is bottom up cultural change giving rise to a different society, rather than top down, hierarchical enforcement of policies which, as you point out, always get co-opted.
The propaganda machine is so entrenched into American society, it’s seems like an impossible task to get people off the propaganda tit. The powers that be are so good at creating division, it’s hard to see an end to the machine that exists. Top down/bottom up, I don’t know which would be easier to realize.
I mean schools where indigenous people in Canada and the US were forced to go because their parents were forced to sign them over to the "schools" where they were starved, beaten and looked upon as not fully human.
Nothing has changed; ever hear of Buffy Saint Marie? She's an indigenous peoples supporter so the media ran a big smear campaign against her, even employed her own family to assault her.
The world is one big residential school and Israel is in charge. They can break fingers, starve people, refuse them medical care, disallow any language that they don't understand.
And rape the students. Israel is the pedophile state.
"COWARDLY DEPRAVITY: Stripped & Held At Gunpoint, Gaza Schoolboys ‘forced to be Israel’s human shields’"
https://mark192.substack.com/p/cowardly-depravity-stripped-and-held
Israel is probably the world leader in perversions and I'm puzzled why shitlibs of the forum would not support it instead of Palestinians who are very conservative and - shock! - against abortions!
I am in favor of abortion on demand. At no cost and with no restrictions whatsoever. Always was, always will be.
There should be a free abortion line at every Costco and Walmart.
I would really like it be called "termination". Abortion some negative connotations.
Lol. Quick lane to heaven. At this point it’s a moral act to not bring someone into the dystopian hell hole.
I guess you think your comment is somehow applicable to what I actually wanted to convey.
To add on to it. If you are born and end up being part of the LGBTQ community, then they will help you die. You don’t have much value if you’re not white and straight.
"“shitlibs” consider a human to be a life once it’s born" - I don't question shitlibs consider that to be the case. That's one of the reasons they're shitlibs.
Re-read my original comment once again and try to put that sacred cow of yours - abortion - to the sidelines just for that one time to really understand what I'm saying.
By the way, I'm amazed at your uniqueness having skipped all the "not life" stages. Somehow you spared some woman what shitlibs consider cancer inside.
Meanwhile in the US you fight for: Abortion rights/LGBT etc. Your country is responsible for shipping arms to Israhell and complicit in genocide.
Your major attention SHOULD be on what your country has become?
Is that 'russian_bot' or 'butt'?
Dear Mark. There is absolutely NO point in even commenting to this person.
He has been here forever and boring as hell!
Oh, every now and then it's kinda' fun to play the trolls, get 'em stirred up, blathering and expose themselves for who -- and what -- they are. I try not to do it too often, but every now and then it provides some dark entertainment.
I have done this in the past BUT not worth it.
It's like replying to religious people..........NO point.
Clever. Now that you've patted yourself on the back, what about the substance?
Since you were the one to first wander from the substance you go first.
When you re-trace the thread you start from the node where the exchange originated. It happens to be yours. Re-read it then come back.
Btw, most shitlibs here appear to be siding with Russia against Ukraine. That's hypocritical once more. Ukraine is mini-Israel and as is usual in such cases tries hard to outdo its inspiration and a guide - Israel - re perversions of all kinds. Russia on the other hand is rather conservative, homo propaganda is forbidden etc etc.
So shitlibs should support both Ukraine and Israel. But they are shitlibs, hence hypocrisy is their middle name. Check that - their first and last name too.
Not everyone is limited/contrained by hazy definitions of "liberalism" and "conservatism" like you are.
Get over your limited/dogmatic thinking (I know you can't - it's not in your character).
Trying to place people into neat "black-boxes" and pigeon-holes of "isms" doesn't work - humans and humanity are too complex for such simplistic thinking.
Humans first (regardless of ideology). Live and let live (instead of trying to control everyone's actions and freedoms - even when they have no impact on you).
That is the problem with people like you - you want to make the world in YOUR IMAGE and follow your dictates/dictum (this would make the world even more fucked-up than it already is).
Thank God sociopathic and fascistic people like you are a minority in this world!
Well said, though I disagree with the 'Humans First' mantra. The Humans First monoculture is not looking great, tbh.
That's Ibrahamic 'God's chosen species' bullshit.
'Live and let live' suffices.
I think you misunderstand that part of my comment. By Humans first - it means humanity. i.e. think of humans as humans (without ideologies superimposed on them). Another way of phrasing it is "think of the humans as humans first and foremost". (The statement is not a comparison of humans with any other species in any context).
Fair enough, though it seems to be poorly used language, as 'Aryans first' or 'America first' as comparisons give an idea of how that type of phrasing comes across.
Anyway, I now get what you mean.
also rape them, kill them, and bury them in mass graves with no marker
That's what they do in Kane County, Illinois to Latino without papers
No-one is in charge. We're all on a runaway train without a driver or even any brakes. Those who claim to be in charge are only in charge of extracting wealth from the rest of us, concentrating power for the sake of their own selfish interests. They're an emergent phenomenon, a symptom of disease. Them is Us.
The people who own the stocks and shares in weapons companies, fossil fuel companies and tech companies are in charge. Eisenhower was absolutely prescient and it has indeed come to pass. Profit is the driver for all, human rights be damned.
I suppose it depends on what you mean by "in charge". They have power, certainly, but the power to do what, exactly?
They have the power to fuck us over: to extract the wealth from our labour, concentrate it and waste it on mad schemes to acquire more power, eventually running our society into the ground. But do they have the power to fix this mess? I don't think so.
In the unlikely event that any of the sociopaths at the top of the hierarchy ever developed a conscience, the others would quickly turn on them and divest them of their power.
To say the oligarchs are in charge is like saying a cancerous tumour is in charge of its host.
I think it’s wildly optimistic to believe any oligarch ever wants to fix anything, they just want to accumulate more. They’ll never develop consciences because there’s no profit in that. Their power lies in being able to buy public opinion- it’s the reason Islamophobia is so rampant round the world, why good people like Jamal Bowman loses his seat. And I think they are definitely tumours up in charge of the host, and we ordinary people (the host) just seem to be unable to see a way out. I certainly can’t.
Okay, I basically agree with you, let's not quibble over the definition of "in charge". What I was wanting to get across was that I think our problems stem from looking for a daddy or mummy figure look after us. If we give up the expectation to be led, the childish desire to abdicate our responsibilities to our "betters", then we won't be creating a niche for sociopaths to dominate us and con us into acting against our own interests.
What I'm talking about is bottom up cultural change giving rise to a different society, rather than top down, hierarchical enforcement of policies which, as you point out, always get co-opted.
The propaganda machine is so entrenched into American society, it’s seems like an impossible task to get people off the propaganda tit. The powers that be are so good at creating division, it’s hard to see an end to the machine that exists. Top down/bottom up, I don’t know which would be easier to realize.
You are absolutely right.
Family values........I think this was Reagan.
I agree!
I have a feeling many people might not understand what you mean by "residential schools".
I mean schools where indigenous people in Canada and the US were forced to go because their parents were forced to sign them over to the "schools" where they were starved, beaten and looked upon as not fully human.
Nothing has changed; ever hear of Buffy Saint Marie? She's an indigenous peoples supporter so the media ran a big smear campaign against her, even employed her own family to assault her.
That's what I think happened too.
Mr Bot must be liquored up tonight, as he being excessively abusive.
That's a perfect description of the town that I lived in for over 50 years